randyrippley
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Carnforth platforms are wired but only see an electric train if the WCML is blocked and the station is being used for reversals. No electric services stop there
Indeed, Rotherham Central is joining the fun at 750V DCThere's also the rather unusual situation of Sunderland station, which is wired (at 1500V DC) - but all the National Rail trains which serve it are diesel-powered.
Carnforth platforms are wired but only see an electric train if the WCML is blocked and the station is being used for reversals. No electric services stop there
Platforms 1-4 at St Pancras
Reading and Didcot Parkway and on DC Ore.
Indeed, Rotherham Central is joining the fun at 750V DC
Brunstane and Newcraighall are both electrified but see only diesel Borders Railway services.
Holytown, on the Shotts line, only sees diesels, after being removed from the Lanark service.
Slateford, Kingsknowe, Wester Hailes, Curriehill and Kirknewton see mainly diesels, however they do see a couple of electrics a day I believe.
Coatbridge Central and Whifflet used to see only 156s and/or 158s despite being fully electrified, this has changed now though.
The GLC-MIA TPE service is mainly run by a 185 these days, I think that may run under wires the entire distance?
Linlithgow and Lenzie certainly get peak electrics, Polmont probably does too.
Northern currently have 6 to 8 departures an hour off peak (Ormskirk, Barrow, Windermere not regular hourly services) only one of these is electric.I'd be surprised if Preston has more diesel services than electrics now. May 2018 timetable changes will make it majority electric for certain.
Northern currently have 6 to 8 departures an hour off peak (Ormskirk, Barrow, Windermere not regular hourly services) only one of these is electric.
TPE have 2 departures an hour. Not all these are electric.
Virgin have 4 departures an hour. Voyagers used on several of these.
April will see more diesels when Blackpool North reopens.
May should see some electric trains to Blackpool likely either 1 or 2 of the 4 hourly Northern services and some Virgin services. It will however also see more diesels as Ormskirk and Barrow/Windermere should go hourly.
I certainly think there will be more electrics than diesels by the end of this year (assuming Bolton line finished).
The Scotland - London services via the Trent Valley are usually 390s, but many of the Scotland - London via Birmingham services are 221s.Are Voyagers used on several of those? Most Scotland-London services are a Pendolino
The Scotland - London services via the Trent Valley are usually 390s, but many of the Scotland - London via Birmingham services are 221s.
Interesting. I hadn't realised quite how many of the ECML stations were diesel only despite being wired! Although i suppose at least there the wires are used by fast trains passing through.
But if we put to one side local stoppers on electrified express lines, are there any big stations/terminii with similar issues to Leeds? I mean, wires on every platform but I imagine a lot of them (the Transpennine platforms for example) ever get an electric service even passing through - the wires have probably not been used on some of those platforms since installation!
Not to my knowledge. Until the Borders line was built, Newcraighall station was wired, but the turnback siding beyond was not. Because the station platform was on a gradient, it was considered unsafe for a driver to change ends there, so everything had to be timetabled into the turnback siding and back again. And therefore it couldn't be diagrammed for an Electric Unit.Regarding Newcraighall and Brunstane , didnt they have a 322 service from Glasgow?
Has platform 17 ever seen an electric?
Yes. Years ago I saw an 87 stabled in one of the Newcastle / S&C bays.Are Carlisles platform bays electrified ?
Agreed most Scotland to London services are Pendolinos but Voyagers are used on several of the the services which operate via Birmingham including those few that start/terminate from Crewe.Are Voyagers used on several of those? Most Scotland-London services are a Pendolino
Is Chester le Street entirely diesel? Cant recall if VTEC stop there now
Its 3rd rail and not wired but most the trains at Chester are diesel.
Most the trains call at Ardwick are diesel and most the trains at Dunbar I think are Diesel.
Its 3rd rail and not wired but most the trains at Chester are diesel.
Most the trains call at Ardwick are diesel and most the trains at Dunbar I think are Diesel.
Dunbar not have 380s and 91 sets ? Or is it all HST with VTEC there
Glasgow Queen St at the Moment .
Not to my knowledge. Until the Borders line was built, Newcraighall station was wired, but the turnback siding beyond was not. Because the station platform was on a gradient, it was considered unsafe for a driver to change ends there, so everything had to be timetabled into the turnback siding and back again. And therefore it couldn't be diagrammed for an Electric Unit.
(Trains could change ends there in an emergency or to recover from service disruption, but there was an elaborate procedure involving the guard being in a position to apply the handbrake in one cab while the driver changed ends.)
EMUs to/from the new Millerhill stabling point will go past Newcraighall, but not through the platform.
Its 3rd rail and not wired but most the trains at Chester are diesel.
Most the trains call at Ardwick are diesel and most the trains at Dunbar I think are Diesel.