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muddythefish

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Electrify the S&C line so it can be used as a proper relief for when the WCML is blocked. RRB's between Preston and Carlisle is a very long journey by road.

Why can't they train drivers to use the S and C as a relief route like they did not so many years ago ? Is it that difficult ?
 
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The person who dreamt up See It, Say It Sorted (and the boss who approved it) should both be transported to Australia.

That'll sort 'em
 

The Ham

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DMUs should be banned for journeys over 2hours.

LHCS for all journeys over 2hours.

LHCS can only be suggested as an alternative when it can, at the very least, match the capacity of DMU's. Anyone suggesting it when it is not appropriate should be made to travel by pacer for a month when there's no seats spare so they can't sit down.
 

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- If the TPE Mk5a sets were multiple units and not LHCS, they'd be getting slaughtered for their design and become the new forum taboo on all hot topics for criticism.
 
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Not sure if it's ever been voiced/suggested before (so if it has please forgive me!) but I think that HS2 is a wasted opportunity for so many reasons if not only because it will not (as I understand it) have vehicle carrying carriages only for people. It really should offer a service like Eurotunnel, imagine being able to take your car from (or near) London to (or near) Manchester in around 90 minutes? That ease so much congestion on the M1/M6 etc. I've wondered why this was never part of the thinking for HS2, is there a reason why this was or was it actually considered and ruled out?
 

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The BBC should cancel Top Gear and use its broadcasting slot and budget for a new season of Trainspotting Live. In respect to this thread being about controversial opinions, the challenge for the Beeb will be to find a suitably outspoken lead presenter to outdo Jeremy Clarkson on who, so I am told, still exists on something called Grand Tour. That would probably not be so hard if they look amongst the railway press or forums!
 

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Not sure if it's ever been voiced/suggested before (so if it has please forgive me!) but I think that HS2 is a wasted opportunity for so many reasons if not only because it will not (as I understand it) have vehicle carrying carriages only for people. It really should offer a service like Eurotunnel, imagine being able to take your car from (or near) London to (or near) Manchester in around 90 minutes? That ease so much congestion on the M1/M6 etc. I've wondered why this was never part of the thinking for HS2, is there a reason why this was or was it actually considered and ruled out?

Probably because - for a start - that would in effect be a freight train, and the line speed will be up to 250mph. You can’t do that with car transporter vehicles.
 

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It was never cheaper to take the train (buying a standard ticket, ignoring advances etc) than the marginal cost of driving there instead.

People complain nowadays that its cheaper to fill the car with a tank of petrol than it is to take the train, as if this is proof of the failure of privatisation, or indeed a new thing. It's amazing to think that the cost of a train ticket (which pays for a driver, a guard, signalling staff, the upkeep of the railway, schedulers, cleaners etc and the fuel for the train) would be cheaper than the fuel required for your car (when you are doing various jobs yourself - e.g. driving, cleaning) and not paying directly for other costs (traffic lights, motorway repairs).
 

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All trains should have windows that can be opened manually. Anyone who panics and tries to close a window when the train enters a tunnel should be escorted off it at the next stop.
 

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Also, these new door mods are a waste of time... Cars have slam doors, your house has none auto doors, whats wrong with trains not having auto doors??
 

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Also, these new door mods are a waste of time... Cars have slam doors, your house has none auto doors, whats wrong with trains not having auto doors??
They have a tendency to not be closed properly by passengers
 

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Also, these new door mods are a waste of time... Cars have slam doors, your house has none auto doors, whats wrong with trains not having auto doors??

Because my house and my car are not providing a public service and are not subject to the DDA regulations.
 

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Any railway station with a large, multi-storey car park (particularly one for 'season ticket holders') is indicative of a planning failure. The money spent on building them should instead be spent on kerb-separated cycle tracks on main roads, local all-day bus services with bus priority corridors, and new and re-opened tram networks. In that order.
 
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The Ham

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Any railway station with a large, multi-storey car park (particularly one for 'season ticket holders') is indicative of a planning failure. The money spent on building them should instead be spent on kerb-separated cycle tracks on main roads, local all-day bus services with bus priority corridors, and new and re-opened tram networks. In that order.

If nothing else there should a franchise requirement to provide cycle parking as laid out in the ATOC's guidance on cycle parking provision. This would require the to be good spacing between the hoops as well as ensuring that there's generally 80% occupancy of cycle parking, if there's regularly more cycles than this then more cycle parking should be provided, even if this means losing car parking spaces to provide it.

As I suggested this should be a franchise commitment with it being acted upon until 18 months before the end of a franchise or 6 months to the end of an extension.

There could be exceptions to this, but generally only at stations which have no car parking or only minimal disabled parking. Even then there should be discussions with the local highway authority to provide cycle parking near to the station.

This would probably result in, even when losing car parking spaces, rail travel being more attractive. As if you own a car then you are likely to drive for journeys other than your commute, as you have invested a lot of money to have the car. However if you don't have a car you are more likely to use trains for more of your travel.

If parking a car became harder and parking a bike was a lot easier then more people would cycle. You would then start to see the critical mass of cyclists that would mean that investment in more cycle facilities to get to the stations and around town becomes politically attractive.

Otherwise you end up with cycle routes that are poorly used because there's few cycle parking facilities, it those that are provided are of poor quality.
 

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Passengers. I'm ex-railway so I can say it.

In fact they weren't so bad when I worked for BR, but now I'm just a commuter other people's noise and smells really wind me up. Why can't everyone just be quiet?

I need a sit down.
 
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