Nomad8459
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We used to be able to build tunnels, of course. And underground stations, too. They still can in (for example) Hong Kong. Yeah, I know..... £££££ . But £££££ is only, ultimately, a matter of the will to do it; the willingness to spend those £££££. As is, seemingly, the case in the South East.
The only airports in Britain that have tunnelled rail infrastructure are Heathrow and Stansted. Even Stansted's 26 million annual passengers dwarfs Leeds Bradfords 4 million. You could probably do some simple maths to demonstrate what proportion of LBA's passengers would benefit from a tunnel (probably not many, as passengers will come from all directions across Yorkshire), and attribute the cost per passenger to provide it.
Meanwhile, Stansted's core catchments are Central London, and Cambridge to a lesser extent, and as such has the highest public transport modal share of any airport in the UK.
Its all true - but for 30 years now we have dealt with current capacities and not ever thought about future capacities - the M62 corridor has got very busy of late
Leeds/Bradford probably needs downgrading with money spent on Church Fenton then.
Hopefully it'll go way over budget and mean Leeds council will have to cancel the ridiculous White Rose Centre station idea.As far as I know Leeds City Council still wants a new station north of Horsforth with a road to the airport, and may be able to afford it with the money previously earmarked for the trolleybus.
Its a pity that rather than extend the existing terminal piecemeal over the years creating the current rabbit Warren then didnt build a new building at the Leeds and of the runway with funincular type rail link.
K
Some kind of people mover could link the existing terminal and any proposed new station site on the Harrogate line. Maybe some kind of automated pod system on a largely dedicated road.
Some kind of people mover could link the existing terminal and any proposed new station site on the Harrogate line. Maybe some kind of automated pod system on a largely dedicated road.
Leeds/Bradford probably needs downgrading with money spent on Church Fenton then.
A big advantage of this simple spur alignment is that it gets the buffer stop end of the airport station very close to the terminal without requiring any demolition or significant alterations to any buildings, only affecting car parking space and access roads. It would be very much more difficult to take an alignment through or around the north side of the airport to link back to the Ilkeley line for a service towards Bradford. The station might have to be further away from the air terminal too to avoid impractical alterations and disruption, which then might require a people mover or travelator link in addition. If a Bradford service is ever justified it might be better to create a triangular junction from Aire valley west towards the Harrogate line to access the same spur line. Hawkesworth Woods (yellow) might be a plausible route, avoiding significant demolition: 2.3km at average gradient 1:37 (2.7%). There would be justified local environmental objections I'm sure though, and some big structures required to cross the valleys. It's also a long route into central Bradford via Shipley, although depending on where the mooted Bradford tunnel came out at the Leeds end, NPR infrastructure might offer a potential shorter, faster route (see orange)I dont know the area at all but from seeing MarkyT's post isnt there anyway you could make it a through line rather than just a terminal station?
You dont want a similar situation that you have at other airports if they are looking to expand flights from there as people will need to come from both directions - though this would add to the bill it seems better to do it now then in the future
An ingenious solution - to make it more customer friendly you could flatten the industrial buildings by the station (are they on the old goods yard?) and move the bus terminal there.Here's an alternative with the road and airport bus link going to Horsforth instead of a new station further north.
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An ingenious solution - to make it more customer friendly you could flatten the industrial buildings by the station (are they on the old goods yard?) and move the bus terminal there.
I don't know the area well, but guess that said businesses have no overwhelming reason to be exactly where they are?
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