martinsh
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Bere Alston ? How many platforms did that have originally ?
I’d consider that until the mid seventies down trains would count as using Kings Cross, because in that direction they called at a platform that would have been in the station, unlike York Rd for up trains.
I suppose it's a bit like 13 & 14 at Piccadilly, all other platforms are terminal. Years ago 13/14 were accessed either from the main station or from the street below, IIRC by stairs and lift. Closed now, as pax wouldn't be passing the shops...?!Although York Road had that name, it was bang alongside the start of platform 1 of the main KX station, so effectively felt part of KX, even if accessed from the side. The Down platform, on the curve rising up round the back of the suburban platforms, was not really much more part of the main station than was York Road. The building I've worked in for years is in the block under which the Up line then ran as it curved round to join the route of the Met along the City Widened Lines. When I was first involved in the building steam had been replaced by diesel on that route, so I never experienced the sight, sound and smell of steam emanating from the cutting that's open to the air in the middle of the block.
Manchester Piccadilly is actually the opposite of what the OP is asking, in terms of "used to be through station, now a terminus".I suppose it's a bit like 13 & 14 at Piccadilly, all other platforms are terminal. Years ago 13/14 were accessed either from the main station or from the street below, IIRC by stairs and lift. Closed now, as pax wouldn't be passing the shops...?!
Just twoBere Alston ? How many platforms did that have originally ?
If you're thinking of north-west England, Blackpool South used to be a through station and much larger than today.Many rail lines now terminate at station where there used to be through passenger trains ............ In these parts I suggest Buxton and possibly Colne which I think both used to have through trains although they aren't partricularly large, but Buxton would have good passenger numbers I would have thought?
I wasn't suggesting that, merely pointing out that the Old King's Cross then could be compared to Piccadilly today, with platforms "outside" the main station carrying through trains. The old King's Cross (York Rd) however looks like the volume of traffic would be miniscule compared to 13/14!Manchester Piccadilly is actually the opposite of what the OP is asking, in terms of "used to be through station, now a terminus".
It certainly did. There was a Tunbridge Wells to Brighton service via Uckfield and Lewes in the 1950s.Outside of London - Uckfield? Largeish town with I suppose high pax numbers (0.5m) due to commuting? Anyone know for sure that the map shows a disused railway and it would have carried pax onwards once?
Uckfield-Lewes closed early 70s IIRC. The old station had 2 platforms, but the new station (being pedantic even by Forum standards) has always been a terminus.Outside of London - Uckfield? Largeish town with I suppose high pax numbers (0.5m) due to commuting? Anyone know for sure that the map shows a disused railway and it would have carried pax onwards once?
Beg pardon, three, as there was a branch platform. Now 1.Just two
It was also a through station to Barry Pier until the Seventies.Barry Island used to have 4 platforms I think ?
Well, not as you'd notice but London Bridge does still have quite a few through services still running.London Bridge?
Well, not as you'd notice but London Bridge does still have quite a few through services still running.
Although York Road had that name, it was bang alongside the start of platform 1 of the main KX station, so effectively felt part of KX, even if accessed from the side. The Down platform, on the curve rising up round the back of the suburban platforms, was not really much more part of the main station than was York Road. The building I've worked in for years is in the block under which the Up line then ran as it curved round to join the route of the Met along the City Widened Lines. When I was first involved in the building steam had been replaced by diesel on that route, so I never experienced the sight, sound and smell of steam emanating from the cutting that's open to the air in the middle of the block.
It was also a through station to Barry Pier until the Seventies.
Based on their current size and number of platforms, the three largest stations that once had through services are:
1) Waterloo - the link through to Waterloo East mentioned above
2) Liverpool St - the link from platform 8 or 9 through to the Met/Circle lines east of the sub-surface Underground station
3) Kings Cross, the York Road/Hotel Curve links through to the City Widened lines
I don't think that any of those qualify under the "spirit of the question" rule! All of those station were built as termini, what we are looking for here is a station which is now a terminus, but which used to be a through station at which no trains (or hardly any) terminated.Based on their current size and number of platforms, the three largest stations that once had through services are:
1) Waterloo - the link through to Waterloo East mentioned above
2) Liverpool St - the link from platform 8 or 9 through to the Met/Circle lines east of the sub-surface Underground station
3) Kings Cross, the York Road/Hotel Curve links through to the City Widened lines
I started the thread, and I've found some of those answers above very illuminating - I never knew there was a mini-King's Cross attached to it and that through trains ever ran! So, basically, I'm glad I asked!!I don't think that any of those qualify under the "spirit of the question" rule! All of those station were built as termini, what we are looking for here is a station which is now a terminus, but which used to be a through station at which no trains (or hardly any) terminated.
Fascinating, many thanks. What actual services were run over it?
Many thanks, very interesting.I believe its was built by the LSWR as a means of accessing the main City of London via Cannon Street. Due to arguments with the SECR over running powers no trains ran and the LSWR built the Waterloo and City instead, rendering the connection pretty much useless.
Though there was a 30 year gap between the withdrawal of regular trains in 1867 and the building of the Drain.I believe its was built by the LSWR as a means of accessing the main City of London via Cannon Street. Due to arguments with the SECR over running powers no trains ran and the LSWR built the Waterloo and City instead, rendering the connection pretty much useless.