Llandudno
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Why does the timetable along the North Wales Coast resemble a dog’s breakfast?
Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of trains operating, although they should have more carriages
No attempt at a clock face frequency, which results in tight/missed connections at Chester for Liverpool and Manchester.
Irregular stopping patterns, Colwyn Bay and even Rhyl are omitted on some services
Varying terminating stations, Holyhead, Bangor, Llandudno, Llandudno Junction, Crewe, Chester, London, Manchester, Manchester Airport, Cardiff, Birmingham International, Shrewsbury, there are probably more!
Request stops even at some busy stations, eg Conwy
2+ hour gaps in service at Conwy and at local Anglesey stations
First east bound train great at circa 0430, but last one around 2030 from Holyhead
Last Welsh bound Saturday train from Chester on a Saturday is circa 2230 (0040 every other night)
No Sunday trains in either direction before 0930 and then only one train per hour all day, with just one extra tea time Virgin train
No trains to Llandudno on Sundays between September and April, but I gather that this is being addressed from December?
I appreciate that there are a handful of Virgin trains operating on this route but the vast majority are operated for TfW.
I know that TfW keep promising more trains in the years to come, but does anyone think that they will address the haphazard frequencies and stopping patterns on the Coast?
TfW have also promised 10% fares reductions on the NW Coast, does anyone know when this will be introduced. Will it be actually be 10%, or will the reduction apply after the annual fares increase, so only circa 7.5%?
I hope this does not sound like a rant, it’s not meant to be - just inquisitive!!
Don’t get me wrong there are plenty of trains operating, although they should have more carriages
No attempt at a clock face frequency, which results in tight/missed connections at Chester for Liverpool and Manchester.
Irregular stopping patterns, Colwyn Bay and even Rhyl are omitted on some services
Varying terminating stations, Holyhead, Bangor, Llandudno, Llandudno Junction, Crewe, Chester, London, Manchester, Manchester Airport, Cardiff, Birmingham International, Shrewsbury, there are probably more!
Request stops even at some busy stations, eg Conwy
2+ hour gaps in service at Conwy and at local Anglesey stations
First east bound train great at circa 0430, but last one around 2030 from Holyhead
Last Welsh bound Saturday train from Chester on a Saturday is circa 2230 (0040 every other night)
No Sunday trains in either direction before 0930 and then only one train per hour all day, with just one extra tea time Virgin train
No trains to Llandudno on Sundays between September and April, but I gather that this is being addressed from December?
I appreciate that there are a handful of Virgin trains operating on this route but the vast majority are operated for TfW.
I know that TfW keep promising more trains in the years to come, but does anyone think that they will address the haphazard frequencies and stopping patterns on the Coast?
TfW have also promised 10% fares reductions on the NW Coast, does anyone know when this will be introduced. Will it be actually be 10%, or will the reduction apply after the annual fares increase, so only circa 7.5%?
I hope this does not sound like a rant, it’s not meant to be - just inquisitive!!