I thought most (Easyjet, Ryanair, Flybe etc.) had fixed on the modern stuff these days?
They do and it's much better for short-haul.
If I want any real reclining room on a long-haul flight I'm happy to pay for the appropriate class either outright or via an upgrade. I feel properly twitchy about fully reclining in economy and tend not to go more than a couple of inches back. Pays to be considerate when you know how it feels to have the tv screen approaching your nose and the seat tray poking you in the chest.
Really, when the lights go out everyone should fully recline (but before that nobody should). Nobody then gets reduced space, it's just a different shape. Perhaps it should be more regimented than it is - a "day mode" (blinds open, seats up) and a "night mode" (blinds closed, seats back)? You could possibly designate areas of larger cabins for "permanent night mode" and "permanent day mode" for those people who want to sleep the whole flight / can't sleep on a flight.
TUI have reclining seats on some short haul flights.I thought most (Easyjet, Ryanair, Flybe etc.) had fixed on the modern stuff these days?
TUI have reclining seats on some short haul flights.
The very purpose of Premium Economy cabins to give people more legroom.Shouldn't be allowed in economy. Full stop. Daytime or night. Hurts my knees when the plank in front decides to recline. Virtually never any courtesy such as "watch your laptop/drink" or "call your ortho surgeon I'm about to crush your knees". It's not an irritant for me, it's genuinely painful.
The very purpose of Premium Economy cabins to give people more legroom.
Shouldn't be allowed in economy. Full stop. Daytime or night. Hurts my knees when the plank in front decides to recline. Virtually never any courtesy such as "watch your laptop/drink" or "call your ortho surgeon I'm about to crush your knees". It's not an irritant for me, it's genuinely painful.
I pay for a seat which reclines, therefore I will recline it. I won't recline during meals and if a 6'6 person is behind me I'll not be needlessly difficult about it- I'm not a monster- but apart from that I will recline it.
Qatar made everyone on the flights I was on to put their seats upright for meals. That was a few years ago though. But before I recline I always check what's going on behind me, as others have said it isn't always nice for the person behind you.I'm confused, I've never been on a flight where the cabin crew haven't ensured that all of the seats are upright at mealtimes. I'm shocked that some airlines would actually allow recline during meal service.
In contrast I’ve never seen the air hostesses do this, ever!I'm confused, I've never been on a flight where the cabin crew haven't ensured that all of the seats are upright at mealtimes. I'm shocked that some airlines would actually allow recline during meal service.
For shorthaul, remove the recliners, they're pointless.
Nearly everyone has now, to be fair. And those that haven't only have a tiny amount of recline, BA is about 1.5 degrees IIRC. It's enough to relax and not be bolt upright, but isn't going to annoy anyone else.
Its an issue that will disappear in a few years.Where available on Economy flights, a way to increase comfort on long journeys or an anti social invasion of somebody else's space?
People who recline their seats on daytime short haul flights are selfish and I have nothing else to say about that.
Reclining to get a few hours sleep overnight is totally legitimate.
Surely the relevant factor here is the time on the flight in question? If it's an hour or two then you'd be lucky to get any sleep at all whether connecting to/from another flight or not.[devil's advocate] What about those connecting from a long-haul? There are plenty flights that have more transit than O&D passengers.
An hours nap helps a lot of people.Surely the relevant factor here is the time on the flight in question? If it's an hour or two then you'd be lucky to get any sleep at all whether connecting to/from another flight or not.