Peter Mugridge
Veteran Member
37 608 was hauling 345 061 near Southall this afternoon, facing west.
321416 and 321426 had a spell on hire to NXEA in 2007/8 during which they predominately worked the following diagram.
Indeed, my sole journey on 321416 was on 2W43 in November 2008.
Obviously it doesn't happen now.
On the matter of 345s, I have only seen reports of the following in operation. Are any other 7-cars at Old Oak or migrating over to Ilford?
Original batch 345003/5-17/22
Conversions 345029/39/40/42/44/47/49
9-cars on west side operation 345030/5/7
Other postings have suggested that 345027/8/34 are also available for 9-car passenger operation and that 345038 may be another 7-car.
I can imagine allowing ATO without a DSD would be frowned upon, especially after the recent Jubilee line incident.I would imagine that the driver is still expected to monitor the train and its surroundings and pull the emergency brake when necessary. This requires the driver remaining vigilant at all times.
With regards to the Class 345, there’s currently a simulator of it at the London Transport Museum which gives some understanding to the layman of both ATO and normal running.
However I noticed that while it was in ATO mode, it still had the DSD button you had to press to acknowledge or the brakes would come on.
Now if the train is in ATO mode, should it need any interaction with the driver to acknowledge a brake demand?
I would imagine that the driver is still expected to monitor the train and its surroundings and pull the emergency brake when necessary. This requires the driver remaining vigilant at all times.
I can imagine allowing ATO without a DSD would be frowned upon, especially after the recent Jubilee line incident.
At that point there is not supposed to be any passengers. Does that make any difference?Think that could present a little bit of an issue with the Auto-Reverse / Paddington to Westbourne Park reversing lines while driver traverses the unit functions?
I'm not up to speed on the intracacies of ATO and it's operation.At that point there is not supposed to be any passengers. Does that make any difference?
I can imagine allowing ATO without a DSD would be frowned upon, especially after the recent Jubilee line incident.
DSD needed for areas without ATO.With regards to the Class 345, there’s currently a simulator of it at the London Transport Museum which gives some understanding to the layman of both ATO and normal running.
However I noticed that while it was in ATO mode, it still had the DSD button you had to press to acknowledge or the brakes would come on.
Now if the train is in ATO mode, should it need any interaction with the driver to acknowledge a brake demand?
I had 345 051 taking me to Shenfield this morning. Still had the new train smell, any idea how long this unit has been in service? 345 049 arrived on the following service.
Being discussed here: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/tfl-rail-early-commencement-of-thames-valley-services.195317/Reading services starting imminently
Cannot anyone please tell me if the following are currently 7 car or 9 car? 345027/50/67?The 'cleaners sheet' in the cabin at Hayes & Harlington indicates that 345059 was out earlier but replaced at Paddington by 345052 on 9T16 0847 London Paddington to Hayes & Harlington.
Updated list of 345s in service therefore
345003/5-17/22 (original 7-car)
345029/39/40/2/4/7/9/51/2/7/9 (7-car)
345027/8/30/4/5/7 (9-car)
Any others?
Cannot anyone please tell me if the following are currently 7 car or 9 car? 345027/50/67?
Many thanks Jonathan. I only log them as seen if they are complete 9 car units.As far as I have seen reported:
345027 is reported as one of the six 9-cars that can work in passenger service after the late evening switchover.
345050 is reported as a 9-car used for tunnel testing
345067 not reported - assume 9-car