Yes my error, misread that bit !The article says 3 out of Norwich (which were Brundall Gardens/Haddiscoe/Spooner Row), and 2 out of Ipswich (Elmswell/Kennett).
Yes my error, misread that bit !The article says 3 out of Norwich (which were Brundall Gardens/Haddiscoe/Spooner Row), and 2 out of Ipswich (Elmswell/Kennett).
I'm not sure with regard to the attribution 'behind the scenes' as it were, the cancellation codes that seem to be used are YI (late arrival of inbound service) so that's not quite so easy to predict. You're right, however, in that concealing the real reason from the public might also be having an SWT-effect on the figures.If something is attributed to a fault with the signalling system or a train crew issue though it won't go against the figures for the 755s will it?
Why are TFLs 360s so bad? Did they always used te be below other family members?
That depends on the delay attribution! But it will set the comparative benchmark for the next period.Next month? Those figures are taken from the annual TIN watch which was published a week or two ago. Are you expecting a decrease due to the 'signalling issue'?
Not sure it requires another thread but the short answer is Heathrow Airport maintained them at Old Oak with the 332s, notoriously badly. It's been mentioned in other threads in the past. The GA 360s still have a Siemens maintenance contract.As for TfL's 360s I'm honestly not sure, they've been panned for reliability since TfL took over and I don't really understand why one of, if not the most reliable rolling stock product in the UK is rock bottom in the EMUs table apart from the 9-car 345s which are a bit of an edge case at the moment to say the least
Do we have a definitive date for when the "signalling issues" started so we can line it up?That depends on the delay attribution! But it will set the comparative benchmark for the next period.
Do we have a definitive date for when the "signalling issues" started so we can line it up?
I'm not sure with regard to the attribution 'behind the scenes' as it were, the cancellation codes that seem to be used are YI (late arrival of inbound service) so that's not quite so easy to predict. You're right, however, in that concealing the real reason from the public might also be having an SWT-effect on the figures.
Trying hard to keep any remaining 156s & 170271 allocated to that route.Encouraging that first two services today have run to Peterborough.
I’m not sure when the last that happened. Probably the first time since the 153s went.
Not sure it requires another thread but the short answer is Heathrow Airport maintained them at Old Oak with the 332s, notoriously badly. It's been mentioned in other threads in the past. The GA 360s still have a Siemens maintenance contract.
Encouraging that the first two services today have run to Peterborough.
I’m not sure when the last time that happened. Probably the first time since the 153s went.
With legacy stock or 755s?Full service planned today, so assume they have more units available / serviceable to work other circuits, well for now anyway !
With legacy stock or 755s?
755s not permitted in service Ely-Peterborough. All legacy stock.With legacy stock or 755s?
With legacy stock or 755s?
Trying hard to keep any remaining 156s & 170271 allocated to that route.
About time this happened.
There's a 6 car MK3 set running around this morning, from what I've heard.
156402 and 156422 are diagrammed today
I knew August 2019 was when the lease ran out, then you mentioned a while back it was extended to August 2020 so I assumed the Siemens maintenance (at least partial not full) was included in that.The GA 360s are no longer on a full service contract with Siemens that they had from being delivered as new. A maintenance only contract was signed up until 2019. No idea if it has been renewed or what type of contract they have now.
Did the TFL ones fall off a cliff after TFL taking over or were they always that bad? If it was very suddenly it makes you wonder if there are any differences between the two maintainers and the way they attributed delays/cancellations.
Isn't it a lack of trained drivers outside Norwich to drive 755s? No surprise the 755s are focused on Norwich based diagrams..with a few Ipswich drivers doing the Cambridge run. You need the legacy stock for Sudbury branch. And for any Ipswich diagrams where drivers aren't signed for the 755s. Are there that many people using Peterboro to Ely that cannot fit on the XC /EMR services?Greater Anglia's argument for the last few weeks has been that the trains were cancelled because of the 'earlier signalling fault' that meant that they could not get the new trains on the line because of a lack of time to get staff and trains cleared to run on that route.
Now we see they are able to run on that line with legacy rolling stock, which begs the question, why they haven't been able to diagram the old stock on this line for the past couple of weeks and diagram the new stock on the other lines, since that was surely the sensible thing to do.
Are the people who allocate trains to services so bad at their job that they'll allocate all the trains that can run on the Peterborough Line to other services and then have some 755s left over that are stuck with no work as they can't diagram them on the Peterborough services, or is there perhaps, another reason....
I am very reliably told that there are no 755 ASDO issues between Peterboro and Ely. This main issue is a lack of trained drivers..and available rolling stock. It seems more 755/3s are being accepted..but not enough Ipswich / Colchester drivers trained to run any kind of 755 diagram to Peterboro yet.Greater Anglia's argument for the last few weeks has been that the trains were cancelled because of the 'earlier signalling fault' that meant that they could not get the new trains on the line because of a lack of time to get staff and trains cleared to run on that route.
Now we see they are able to run on that line with legacy rolling stock, which begs the question, why they haven't been able to diagram the old stock on this line for the past couple of weeks and diagram the new stock on the other lines, since that was surely the sensible thing to do.
Are the people who allocate trains to services so bad at their job that they'll allocate all the trains that can run on the Peterborough Line to other services and then have some 755s left over that are stuck with no work as they can't diagram them on the Peterborough services, or is there perhaps, another reason....
I am very reliably told that there are no 755 ASDO issues between Peterboro and Ely. This main issue is a lack of trained drivers..and available rolling stock. It seems more 755/3s are being accepted..but not enough Ipswich / Colchester drivers trained to run any kind of 755 diagram to Peterboro yet.
ASDO is not cleared for Ely-Peterborough yet thus the emphasis & responsibility would be on drivers which is not acceptable hence their lack of any use across the Fens.
Not what I was told by an Ipswich based colleague yesterday. If that was the case a Stadler would have stood in occasionally if trained crew where available rather than cancel & it's not happened yet. The Manea crossing issue remains so it's not entirely untrue.That contradicts the official line from Greater Anglia, who say they are cleared to run on the route and the problem is driver shortages caused by faults with the signalling system.
Not what I was told by an Ipswich based colleague yesterday. If that was the case a Stadler would have stood in occasionally if trained crew where available rather than cancel & it's not happened yet. The Manea crossing issue remains so it's not entirely untrue.
The new Stadler trains have been passed to run on the route, now the company is teaching its Ipswich-based drivers to operate them on this route.
They are cleared to run but it's ASDO that's helping hold things up in the same way it did at Brundall Gardens, Haddiscoe & Spooner. It has to work or Trains cannot call.I'm not saying what you say is untrue, I'm merely stating that in the local press in the Q&A with Greater Anglia, it says