The Albion
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" operating partner, Stagecoach." Ha, ha. Love it !
" operating partner, Stagecoach." Ha, ha. Love it !
" operating partner, Stagecoach." Ha, ha. Love it !
I think what @The Albion meant is that Stagecoach timed a few of their Prontos to be in front of TBs a few years agoThey actually are on that route, it is (up to the date given) an old-style "joint" operation.
What is meant by the statement ‘Mango will no longer be accepted’?
Mango has never been accepted on Pronto even on Trent Barton’s own buses. Zigzag has also never been accepted. It’s not just Trent Barton because Stagecoach Day Explorer Tickets are also not accepted on Pronto even on Stagecoach buses.
Hopefully all will now change and Stagecoach will begin to accept and sell their Day Explorer Tickets on Pronto. Stagecoach will now have a significant presence at Nottingham Victoria Bus Station with Pronto, Sherwood Arrow and the new X1.
Hopefully they'll launch a service from there to Leicester, if only because then you'd be able to travel on Stagecoach only all the way from Bath or Trowbridge up to Leeds.
Hopefully they'll launch a service from there to Leicester, if only because then you'd be able to travel on Stagecoach only all the way from Bath or Trowbridge up to Leeds.
Living near Bath and originally hailing from Yorkshire, it's a facility I miss
TBH, I did Trowbridge to Market Harborough in 2018 courtesy of Stagecoach via Swindon, Oxford, C Norton, Banbury, Dav and Northampton. Did Stagecoach ever get to Nottingham on the X61 from Leicester?
Wasn't there also a 757 (?) from Sheffield (?) to Leicester ?
Living near Bath and originally hailing from Yorkshire, it's a facility I miss
TBH, I did Trowbridge to Market Harborough in 2018 courtesy of Stagecoach via Swindon, Oxford, C Norton, Banbury, Dav and Northampton. Did Stagecoach ever get to Nottingham on the X61 from Leicester?
I did a day trip from Oxford to Loughborough using Stagecoach and then Skylink (whose company still confuses me - is it a Kinchbus route or a Trent Barton one?), though I made use of the X5 via MK which is much faster than via Banbury. Another time I made a long trip was after a night out in Bath - I had lost my return train ticket and my wallet but had just enough change to buy an Explorer and get home via Yate, Stroud, Cheltenham, Cirencester, and Swindon!
As asked on the "Nottinghamshire" thread - how "cordial" was the takeover of Pronto by Stagecoach?
Going back a few years, but my memory was something like:
...each hourly - combining to be a twenty minute service from Nottingham to Mansfield.
- 737 - Nottingham - Mansfield - slow road to Chesterfield (like the modern day Pronto)
- 747 - Nottingham - Mansfield - fast road to Chesterfield - Sheffield - Meadowhall (like the old X2)
- 757 - Nottingham - Mansfield - Doncaster (via Worksop?)
The Chesterfield - Sheffield - Meadowhall service was the Chesterfield Transport X10/X11/X12, which was extended to Barnsley via Rotherham for a period (when they took over the old X36 Rotherham - Barnsley service - a route named in sequence with the X31/X32/X33/X34 services from Sheffield to West Yorkshire).
Once scaled back, the X12 number was retained by the operators who kept subsequent tenders for the Barnsley - Rotherham express service (one of those quirks, where a service number ends up far away from the sequence that it used to belong to - the 42 in North East Fife is a similar example - it used to be a service that ran parallel to other forty-something services in Fife but now goes nowhere near them, given many years of service changes) - maybe that's one for another thread though!
I don't remember any Stagecoach service from Sheffield to Leicester - there may well have been a 7x7 from Nottingham to Leicester though (?) - this was at the time when Stagecoach had a 767 from Sheffield to Worksop, so the 7x7 numbering sequence was their "thing" << nothing to do with airport services though
As asked on the "Nottinghamshire" thread - how "cordial" was the takeover of Pronto by Stagecoach?
Going back a few years, but my memory was something like:
...each hourly - combining to be a twenty minute service from Nottingham to Mansfield.
- 737 - Nottingham - Mansfield - slow road to Chesterfield (like the modern day Pronto)
- 747 - Nottingham - Mansfield - fast road to Chesterfield - Sheffield - Meadowhall (like the old X2)
- 757 - Nottingham - Mansfield - Doncaster (via Worksop?)
The Chesterfield - Sheffield - Meadowhall service was the Chesterfield Transport X10/X11/X12, which was extended to Barnsley via Rotherham for a period (when they took over the old X36 Rotherham - Barnsley service - a route named in sequence with the X31/X32/X33/X34 services from Sheffield to West Yorkshire).
Once scaled back, the X12 number was retained by the operators who kept subsequent tenders for the Barnsley - Rotherham express service (one of those quirks, where a service number ends up far away from the sequence that it used to belong to - the 42 in North East Fife is a similar example - it used to be a service that ran parallel to other forty-something services in Fife but now goes nowhere near them, given many years of service changes) - maybe that's one for another thread though!
I don't remember any Stagecoach service from Sheffield to Leicester - there may well have been a 7x7 from Nottingham to Leicester though (?) - this was at the time when Stagecoach had a 767 from Sheffield to Worksop, so the 7x7 numbering sequence was their "thing" << nothing to do with airport services though
As asked on the "Nottinghamshire" thread - how "cordial" was the takeover of Pronto by Stagecoach?
Going back a few years, but my memory was something like:
...each hourly - combining to be a twenty minute service from Nottingham to Mansfield.
- 737 - Nottingham - Mansfield - slow road to Chesterfield (like the modern day Pronto)
- 747 - Nottingham - Mansfield - fast road to Chesterfield - Sheffield - Meadowhall (like the old X2)
- 757 - Nottingham - Mansfield - Doncaster (via Worksop?)
The Chesterfield - Sheffield - Meadowhall service was the Chesterfield Transport X10/X11/X12, which was extended to Barnsley via Rotherham for a period (when they took over the old X36 Rotherham - Barnsley service - a route named in sequence with the X31/X32/X33/X34 services from Sheffield to West Yorkshire).
Once scaled back, the X12 number was retained by the operators who kept subsequent tenders for the Barnsley - Rotherham express service (one of those quirks, where a service number ends up far away from the sequence that it used to belong to - the 42 in North East Fife is a similar example - it used to be a service that ran parallel to other forty-something services in Fife but now goes nowhere near them, given many years of service changes) - maybe that's one for another thread though!
I don't remember any Stagecoach service from Sheffield to Leicester - there may well have been a 7x7 from Nottingham to Leicester though (?) - this was at the time when Stagecoach had a 767 from Sheffield to Worksop, so the 7x7 numbering sequence was their "thing" << nothing to do with airport services though
Re double deckers on TB, its partly to do with passenger safety, if there's only a single deck, the driver can have an idea of what's happening, not just a view on a camera screen.
Which makes sense in my view.
The buses are clean, reasonably reliable and with the easy to use online bus tracker and Mango payment system, rather convenient. They seem to be a little bit cheaper too if you pay by Mango and the smart ticketing system doesn't just charge you essentially a flat rate, instead taking into account distance. Mango also speeds up boarding noticeably
Back in National Bus Group days in the 1970s and '80s, before bus deregulation in 1986 (and maybe for a few years after that) Trent as it then was used to have some double decker routes (mainly Leyland Atlanteans, Bristol VRs and Leyland Olympians). For example, the Alfreton-Derby route was double deckers in those days. They haven't had any double deckers for years, though, I don't think, probably not at least since Trent merged with Barton and became Trent Barton.
I often witness passengers being left behind on the Rainbow One route, I think it really needs them. But the low bridge at Langley Mill station could be a problem.It's irritating Trent refuse to buy deckers, some routes badly need them, deckers operate fine with other companies even rival companies in Derby & Nottingham
I often witness passengers being left behind on the Rainbow One route, I think it really needs them. But the low bridge at Langley Mill station could be a problem.
Hopefully but their have been rumours about Rainbow One getting E200MMCs and being rebranded as the oneThe old 231 was double decker operated prior to the introduction of Trents single deck policy so can't see Langley Mill being a problem! The withdrawal of the Rapid One next month should helpfully make the blue Rainbow One vehicles fuller - I love seeing a standard red Trent bus on the route as there are more seats!
In which case, could these 2 buses from the Rapid 1 then be put into the Rainbow 1 to increase frequency?I often witness passengers being left behind on the Rainbow One route, I think it really needs them. But the low bridge at Langley Mill station could be a problem.
The old 231 was double decker operated prior to the introduction of Trents single deck policy so can't see Langley Mill being a problem! The withdrawal of the Rapid One next month should helpfully make the blue Rainbow One vehicles fuller - I love seeing a standard red Trent bus on the route as there are more seats!
In which case, could these 2 buses from the Rapid 1 then be put into the Rainbow 1 to increase frequency?
Would some sort of 7.5 frequency to Eastwood with extensions every 15 mins to Henor, every half hour to Alfreton and the other 2 buses per hour terminating at Eastwood?
Re double deckers on TB, its partly to do with passenger safety, if there's only a single deck, the driver can have an idea of what's happening, not just a view on a camera screen.
Which makes sense in my view.
Single deckers have lower dwell time as well as drivers aren't worrying about someone getting up stairs safely and into their seat. Less overall passengers on the bus means that drop offs are slightly quicker.
Another advantage is that there are more seats without steps to get to them. This pleases a lot of less able passengers who would struggle with the stairs.
Pronto is a Stagecoach service now, but I agree.Some are good I find, but a lot are plain like Prontos
I must admit to missing the Coaches on the Red Arrow - these Coaches was beautiful beasts indeed