HST coach disposals

[DB]

As far as a running exhibit for railtours, I believe that a charter company would be better placed to do this. LSL has a full rake along with power cars and the 125 group also has a pair of power cars and no doubt will acquire coaches.

That's not the point. Apart from the national collection, no preserved or charter-operated set is guaranteed to survive long term, whereas anything in the national collection should (in theory!).

 

[hwl]

That's not the point. Apart from the national collection, no preserved or charter-operated set is guaranteed to survive long term, whereas anything in the national collection should (in theory!).

Plenty of Coaches will still be in service for quite few years yet so plenty of opportunity to pick up a few more.

 

[43 302]

Plenty of Coaches will still be in service for quite few years yet so plenty of opportunity to pick up a few more.

Not sure if they'd want any sliding door ones. Slam doors should be gone already, and won't be around much longer.

 

[DB]

Not sure if they'd want any sliding door ones. Slam doors should be gone already, and won't be around much longer.

Indeed. And as regards those in a fairly original condition that's now limited to what remains of the EMT fleet.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

If they wish to show the development of the type fully, then surely they should in fact have one with the sliding doors?

 

[43 302]

If they wish to show the development of the type fully, then surely they should in fact have one with the sliding doors?

Personally I think photos would suffice, every train has sliding doors these days.

 

[DB]

Personally I think photos would suffice, every train has sliding doors these days.

Yes, agree.

 

[SteveyBee131]

That's not the point. Apart from the national collection, no preserved or charter-operated set is guaranteed to survive long term, whereas anything in the national collection should (in theory!).

Nothing is guaranteed, any number of things could happen, even in a national museum where everything is wrapped up in cotton wool. Anyway, I think we've gone a bit off topic, as museum policies don't have much to do with HST coach disposals.

 

[DB]

Nothing is guaranteed, any number of things could happen, even in a national museum where everything is wrapped up in cotton wool. Anyway, I think we've gone a bit off topic, as museum policies don't have much to do with HST coach disposals.

That's why I said in theory.

However, something in a national museum collection should be as safe as it realistically gets

 

[cole_peter5@]

I guys thanks for the disposal I asked about ........Peter

 

[206driver]

Out of interest, what's the rough scrap value of a Mk3 coach? Glad you guys are keeping track!

 

[DB]

Out of interest, what's the rough scrap value of a Mk3 coach? Glad you guys are keeping track!

They are mostly steel, and scrap steel looks to be somewhere around £225 per ton at the moment (source: https://www.lme.com/ then converted from $ into £).

Mk3s are about 35 tons, so that's £7875 if they were all steel, but they aren't so that will be minus other materials (glass, plastics, etc), transport and processing costs. There wil be some higher-value metals in there (copper mainly), but probably not enough to make much difference to the value, and the copper will be in wiring mainly which also needs processing.

I don't know what sort of price a scrappie would give in these circumstances as I don't know what their transport and processing costs would be.

 

[Phil Scott]

Reported by a friend today that 40402 is at Weardale Railway and 40732 is at NRM Shildon.

Mark

I have seen a photo of 40402 at Wolsingham undergoing repairs. No idea why it’s there or what it’s intended use is....

 

[cole_peter5@]

Hi Guys ..... Referring back to the 2 HST coaches that went to YORK - 40402 44089 - Been up and down the York on goggle and can't seem to them anywhere in the yard, could they be in the
main shed off Holgate Road --- or have they gone for scrap somewhere - anybody any ideas --- ????

I have seen a photo of 40402 at Wolsingham undergoing repairs. No idea why it’s there or what it’s intended use is....

Hi Scott thanks for the info on 40402 - any ideas on the whereabouts of 44089 - there doesn't seem to be any reports about this coaches, unless as I said in may be in the big shed of Holgate Road
bit of a mystery 44089 ---- Peter.

 

[antharro]

Been up and down the York on goggle and can't seem to them anywhere in the yard,

If you're referring to Google satellite or street view, neither of these are up to date or live, the images may be some years old.

 

[jonty14]

picture of it here with breaking under way...

Carl Watson - Eastleigh Photo Blog

What is that coach next it? It looks like it has power doors

 

[43096]

What is that coach next it? It looks like it has power doors

Class 442 vehicle.

 

[jonty14]

Class 442 vehicle.

Thank you

 

[Spirit555]

Another batch for disposal.

66713 with 6394 44060 40117 44069 44068 40115 44091 6393

5Z91 14:00 Worcester Yard to Newport Docks.

Also for Doncaster tomorrow
47815 with 6340 42087 42580 43022 43027 43029

5E23 Laira to Doncaster Works.

Mark

 

[Razor1967]

Re the ex HST coach in York Yard, see my post #146.

Was still there when I took the dog for a walk up there about 2 weeks ago !

Starting to get look a bit worse for wear and I cannot imagine it is being used a stores van or anything like that as it quite a way from the main buildings.

 

[Oberon_706]

What is the purpose of the Doncaster transfer? Part of the Scotrail Inter7City program?

 

[43096]

What is the purpose of the Doncaster transfer? Part of the Scotrail Inter7City program?

If you’re referring to yesterday’s move of two trailers and three power cars, it’s extra conversions for GWR.

 

[Oberon_706]

Yes, that was it. Thank you.

 

[St. Paddy]

There was a Long Marston to Newport move yesterday hauled by the GBRF 50s with 6 Mk3s. Anyone have any details please

 

[43096]

There was a Long Marston to Newport move yesterday hauled by the GBRF 50s with 6 Mk3s. Anyone have any details please

Formed of 50007 6393 46008 42304 41192 40810 40811 41186 6394 50049 .

 

[St. Paddy]

Formed of 50007 6393 46008 42304 41192 40810 40811 41186 6394 50049 .

Many thanks

 

[cole_peter5@]

Hi Guys
Do anyone have the numbers of HST coaches on todays run with 50007 50049 ( 5Z51 ) Long Marston - Sims Newport.
Thanks all ----- Peter.

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Thanks for the numbers ....... St Paddy
Peter.

 

[43 302]

Hi Guys
Do anyone have the numbers of HST coaches on todays run with 50007 50049 ( 5Z51 ) Long Marston - Sims Newport.
Thanks all ----- Peter.

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Thanks for the numbers ....... St Paddy
Peter.

Yes, see the posts above.

 

[Phil Scott]

List updated.

Apparently 42356 has been purchased from Eastleigh Works. It's one of the former prototype coaches (ex-12003). Anyone know any more?

 

[GWHST107]

Saw before that some enthusiasts had been able to purchase the old seats from a carriage, would anyone know if Newport Sims would be likely to offer the same courtesy if asked?
(apologies if this is in the wrong place)