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Probably not, the base workings don’t have 707s out currently at weekends.Will there be any diagrams on Saturday this week?
Probably not, the base workings don’t have 707s out currently at weekends.Will there be any diagrams on Saturday this week?
The 465’s are worn outGreat work putting in pointless seat covers in SE blue now there's no franchise.
Thankfully the 465s are all in sparking condition and didn't need that money.
It's not like the SE colour scheme is going to change after the 16th October...Great work putting in pointless seat covers in SE blue now there's no franchise.
Thankfully the 465s are all in sparking condition and didn't need that money.
Thanks for the swift reply. Save me a trip over to south eastern. Will probably head over to try to clear some more of my missing south Western units.Probably not, the base workings don’t have 707s out currently at weekends.
Nothing that a proper refurb wouldn't sort out. The older SWR/Southern 455s are in far better condition internally, but the 465s have been left to rotThe 465’s are worn out
Methinks that there was more than a tad of sarcasm in the post that you replied toThe 465’s are worn out
Agreed.Nothing that a proper refurb wouldn't sort out. The older SWR/Southern 455s are in far better condition internally, but the 465s have been left to rot
The 376s aren't in great nick either
Indeed, Northern is still Northern just without Arriva logosIt's not like the SE colour scheme is going to change after the 16th October...
The SWR 455's aren't all very clean and the Southern 455's if anything are much worse!Nothing that a proper refurb wouldn't sort out. The older SWR/Southern 455s are in far better condition internally, but the 465s have been left to rot
The 376s aren't in great nick either
What on earth is the point of one seat there.credit to dan sullivan on Facebook
so they do have southeastern seats... this was 012
It was specified by SWT and I agree that it's pointless.What on earth is the point of one seat there.
They should put two in, completely pointless having all that space with no grab poles or ceiling handles.
They'd probably get more people in with another seat and standees in the aisle
Indeed. In fact both the 313s and 455s at Southern are both far too old and knackered to still be in service. The 707s really should have gone to Southern to replace the 313s and 455s rather than going to Southeastern who have plenty of 465s and 466s which still have quite a few more years left in them. This is yet another silly rolling stock transfer.Well, the Southern 455's needs to be taken out of service as it is way too old for its liking. I know that SWR 455's are heading to the knackers yard and Southern's 455 needs to do the same.
I’m not sure whether the 707 lease was tendered off between operators, but otherwise I’ve not seen Southern necessarily rushing to lease them…Indeed. In fact both the 313s and 455s at Southern are both far too old and knackered to still be in service. The 707s really should have gone to Southern to replace the 313s and 455s rather than going to Southeastern who have plenty of 465s and 466s which still have quite a few more years left in them. This is yet another silly rolling stock transfer.
It wasn't SWR didn't have them in their franchise bid so once DofT accepted it a new home had to be found for 707's and as SE needed more stock solved a problem for them. Without going off topic it was daft decision by DofT in the first place but given the dilapidated state of the metro 465's at least SE passengers can enjoy some quick improvements as it seems unlikely any other new stock will be coming anytime soon. Perhaps OLR will get the funds to at least give the metro fleet a heavy refurb.I’m not sure whether the 707 lease was tendered off between operators, but otherwise I’ve not seen Southern necessarily rushing to lease them…
I’m not sure how 30 707s would work the 42 455 diagrams a day as well as the 16 313 diagrams…Indeed. In fact both the 313s and 455s at Southern are both far too old and knackered to still be in service. The 707s really should have gone to Southern to replace the 313s and 455s rather than going to Southeastern who have plenty of 465s and 466s which still have quite a few more years left in them. This is yet another silly rolling stock transfer.
It’s not going to.It's not like the SE colour scheme is going to change after the 16th October...
I know Some people seem to think everything will change, when the current franchise expires, after the 16th Oct.It’s not going to.
Will it? The only reason VTEC changed to LNER was because the Virgin brand obviously couldn't be used. Northern has stayed as Northern with only the logo changing style because the old one used an Arriva-specific typeface.It obviously won't immediately but in time a new brand/colour scheme will emerge.
I agree, there's nowhere near enough Class 707s to do the above and that isn't even counting the various infrastructure issues on both the East Coastway and West Coastway.I’m not sure how 30 707s would work the 42 455 diagrams a day as well as the 16 313 diagrams…
Why? There's no need.It obviously won't immediately but in time a new brand/colour scheme will emerge.
Then it'll be all change again.
And they only altered the logo because the typeface was Arriva's own.As pointed out Northern's colour scheme remained the same, just slightly altered Logo.
Believe it’ll be all the metro depots/any that sign 376s. Could be wrong though.Sorry if I have missed it (in the 37 pages, it's very easy to) but does anyone know what driver depots are signing the new 707s? Is it just Grove Park or are there other depots (planned or otherwise) going to sign them?
It obviously won't immediately but in time a new brand/colour scheme will emerge.
Then it'll be all change again.
I believe all metro depots as well as Gillingham too.Sorry if I have missed it (in the 37 pages, it's very easy to) but does anyone know what driver depots are signing the new 707s? Is it just Grove Park or are there other depots (planned or otherwise) going to sign them?
You do not know yet that GBR will be going nationwide blue. Unless you know something we don’t, of course!Not necessarily - wouldn't be long until GBR by that point and actually Southeastern's 'blue' is fairly well applied across the network.
So are Southeastern planning to use the 707s on some of their Gillingham services?I believe all metro depots as well as Gillingham too.