TheManOnThe172
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I am trying to work out fare options from Greenwich or Deptford to St Pancras, and consulted BR Fares. For simplicity, I'm looking just at Peak single fares for now.
BRFares tells me that an Anytime Day Single from Greenwich or Deptford is £3.80. Expensive, but easy to understand. But after that, it all gets horribly confusing.
BRFares also lists two fares called "PAYG Peak Info" - with the curious validity of "NOT FOR TRAVEL (no break of journey)". Again, same fares from Greenwich or Deptford. One of these fares is routed "Not Underground" and costs £3.20. The other is routed "Any Permitted" and also costs £3.20
My guess is that the "not for travel" bit is spurious, and that these were the cost of a Contactless/Oyster journey. But then I checked the TFL website (for travel from what they call "Greenwich Rail station", with a BR logo - for "a single rail journey"), which tells me Contactless/Oyster costs £3.00 peak, with no comment about routing. If I check the prices for "Deptford Rail Station" - one stop closer to St Pancras - the cost is £4.80.
My least-unlikely explanation is that from Greenwich, the £3.20 "PAYG Peak Info" is the pure-rail price - for Southeastern/Thameslink services. And that the £3.00 TFL price (despite the use of the BR logo) from Greenwich is a DLR+Tube only fare. (And that "Any Permitted" for the second £3.20 PAYG Peak Info fare actually boils down to "not Underground" as well)
And from Deptford, I am presuming that the £4.80 TFL price is for the perverse routing of Deptford-Greenwich-Canary Wharf-Bank-St Pancras or Deptford-London Bridge (get off direct Thameslink train to St Pancras and change to tube)-St Pancras, while anyone sensible travelling directly on a Thameslink service would only be charged £3.20.
Or might I have got confused?
BRFares tells me that an Anytime Day Single from Greenwich or Deptford is £3.80. Expensive, but easy to understand. But after that, it all gets horribly confusing.
BRFares also lists two fares called "PAYG Peak Info" - with the curious validity of "NOT FOR TRAVEL (no break of journey)". Again, same fares from Greenwich or Deptford. One of these fares is routed "Not Underground" and costs £3.20. The other is routed "Any Permitted" and also costs £3.20
My guess is that the "not for travel" bit is spurious, and that these were the cost of a Contactless/Oyster journey. But then I checked the TFL website (for travel from what they call "Greenwich Rail station", with a BR logo - for "a single rail journey"), which tells me Contactless/Oyster costs £3.00 peak, with no comment about routing. If I check the prices for "Deptford Rail Station" - one stop closer to St Pancras - the cost is £4.80.
My least-unlikely explanation is that from Greenwich, the £3.20 "PAYG Peak Info" is the pure-rail price - for Southeastern/Thameslink services. And that the £3.00 TFL price (despite the use of the BR logo) from Greenwich is a DLR+Tube only fare. (And that "Any Permitted" for the second £3.20 PAYG Peak Info fare actually boils down to "not Underground" as well)
And from Deptford, I am presuming that the £4.80 TFL price is for the perverse routing of Deptford-Greenwich-Canary Wharf-Bank-St Pancras or Deptford-London Bridge (get off direct Thameslink train to St Pancras and change to tube)-St Pancras, while anyone sensible travelling directly on a Thameslink service would only be charged £3.20.
Or might I have got confused?