Southern trainee driver wage

[198ksw]

Can anyone advise how the pay scale changes on Southern from rules to passed out and if there is any London weighting on top please?

Not for me, asking for someone else.
Thanks

 

[Quin79]

Can anyone advise how the pay scale changes on Southern from rules to passed out and if there is any London weighting on top please?

Not for me, asking for someone else.
Thanks

The Driver salary are as follows:

Trainee Driver (Pre-Rules) - £31,382
Trainee Driver (Post Rules) - £42,326
1st Year Driver - £59,084
Driver - £63,294

London Allowance is £2056, and you do get this from your start date if based at a London Depot.

 

[WizCastro197]

The Driver salary are as follows:

Trainee Driver (Pre-Rules) - £31,382
Trainee Driver (Post Rules) - £42,326
1st Year Driver - £59,084
Driver - £63,294

London Allowance is £2056, and you do get this from your start date if based at a London Depot.

I could've sworn it was a lot higher than 63,000? I thought Southern had Striked/Struck in the past for Pay well over the 70,000 mark?

 

[Quin79]

I could've sworn it was a lot higher than 63,000? I thought Southern had Striked/Struck in the past for Pay well over the 70,000 mark?

Bear in mind the figures quoted will not include the rostered Sunday working where you can earn 20% on top if you choose to work as they are "outside", and the £2056 London Allowance is to add on to those figures

 

[WizCastro197]

Bare in mind the figures quoted will not include the rostered Sunday working where you can earn 20% on top if you choose to work as they are "outside"

Ah Okay Thanks because I saw an article a few years ago that said at Southern Driver can now earn up to £75,000/y

 

[Quin79]

Ah Okay Thanks because I saw an article a few years ago that said at Southern Driver can now earn up to £75,000/y

If you factor in things like bank holidays and a little bit of overtime that figure is easily achievable

 

[198ksw]

The Driver salary are as follows:

Trainee Driver (Pre-Rules) - £31,382
Trainee Driver (Post Rules) - £42,326
1st Year Driver - £59,084
Driver - £63,294

London Allowance is £2056, and you do get this from your start date if based at a London Depot.

Thanks for this.
Selhurst is classed as a London depot isn’t it?

 

[PGAT]

Thanks for this.
Selhurst is classed as a London depot isn’t it?

Yes

 

[Luckyflames]

Can anyone advise how the pay scale changes on Southern from rules to passed out and if there is any London weighting on top please?

Not for me, asking for someone else.
Thanks

Someone been offered a course ? In the near future ?

 

[198ksw]

The Driver salary are as follows:

Trainee Driver (Pre-Rules) - £31,382
Trainee Driver (Post Rules) - £42,326
1st Year Driver - £59,084
Driver - £63,294

London Allowance is £2056, and you do get this from your start date if based at a London Depot.

Many thanks for this, Quin79.

Do you have any idea what sort of time scale between each stage please?
In other words, how many weeks/months the trainee would be on pre-rules money and then on Post rules money?

Thank you in advance

 

[whoosh]

I could've sworn it was a lot higher than 63,000? I thought Southern had Striked/Struck in the past for Pay well over the 70,000 mark?

Ah Okay Thanks because I saw an article a few years ago that said at Southern Driver can now earn up to £75,000/y

Yes, newspaper headlines are completely honest aren't they?

Achievable pay with stacks of overtime as the headline, making out it's the basic salary. Aren't newspapers great?


I saw a headline saying tube drivers earnt more than long haul airline pilots but it turned out the figure included if they used their free pass for the most expensive tube journey every day; if their partner used their free pass for the most expensive tube journey every day, what London Underground puts into their pension, and their normal pay, and compared that figure with a long haul pilot's basic (and not their free/discounted travel, or their dependents free/discounted travel, or their 'sector pay' per flight, or their meal and hotel expenses, or their company's pension contributions.)

Comparing like with like isn't newspaper's forté.

Same with Nurses and Police with Train Drivers - basic pay is compared, but the unsocial hours pay for Police and Nurses, that train drivers don't get, isn't mentioned.
Neither is it made clear that Nurses and Police can climb pay grades with length of service and experience, but train drivers don't.

I'd stop reading them if I were you. They're full of bull.

 

[43066]

Yes, newspaper headlines are completely honest aren't they?

Achievable pay with stacks of overtime as the headline, making out it's the basic salary. Aren't newspapers great?


I saw a headline saying tube drivers earnt more than long haul airline pilots but it turned out the figure included if they used their free pass for the most expensive tube journey every day; if their partner used their free pass for the most expensive tube journey every day, what London Underground puts into their pension, and their normal pay, and compared that figure with a long haul pilot's basic (and not their free/discounted travel, or their dependents free/discounted travel, or their 'sector pay' per flight, or their meal and hotel expenses, or their company's pension contributions.)

Comparing like with like isn't newspaper's forté.

Same with Nurses and Police with Train Drivers - basic pay is compared, but the unsocial hours pay for Police and Nurses, that train drivers don't get, isn't mentioned.
Neither is it made clear that Nurses and Police can climb pay grades with length of service and experience, but train drivers don't.

I'd stop reading them if I were you. They're full of bull.

I couldn’t agree more. One newspaper in particular!

 

[WizCastro197]

Yes, newspaper headlines are completely honest aren't they?

Achievable pay with stacks of overtime as the headline, making out it's the basic salary. Aren't newspapers great?


I saw a headline saying tube drivers earnt more than long haul airline pilots but it turned out the figure included if they used their free pass for the most expensive tube journey every day; if their partner used their free pass for the most expensive tube journey every day, what London Underground puts into their pension, and their normal pay, and compared that figure with a long haul pilot's basic (and not their free/discounted travel, or their dependents free/discounted travel, or their 'sector pay' per flight, or their meal and hotel expenses, or their company's pension contributions.)

Comparing like with like isn't newspaper's forté.

Same with Nurses and Police with Train Drivers - basic pay is compared, but the unsocial hours pay for Police and Nurses, that train drivers don't get, isn't mentioned.
Neither is it made clear that Nurses and Police can climb pay grades with length of service and experience, but train drivers don't.

I'd stop reading them if I were you. They're full of bull.

Yes I probably should’ve known when I read the title as it did further explain that to achieve this salary one must work Sundays and overtime I believe. I will try and link it

Oof. I had forgotten it was daily mail. I understand now! Not very honest!!

Southern rail drivers to get £75,000 paY

Some 1,000 drivers were offered a bumper pay rise equivalent to an increase of 23.8 per cent over four years. It would see basic salaries for a 35-hour, four-day week, rise from £49,001 to £60,683.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[43066]

Yes I probably should’ve known when I read the title as it did further explain that to achieve this salary one must work Sundays and overtime I believe. I will try and link it

Oof. I had forgotten it was daily mail. I understand now! Not very honest!!

Southern rail drivers to get £75,000 paY

Some 1,000 drivers were offered a bumper pay rise equivalent to an increase of 23.8 per cent over four years. It would see basic salaries for a 35-hour, four-day week, rise from £49,001 to £60,683.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yep, that’s the one!

 

[Quin79]

Many thanks for this, Quin79.

Do you have any idea what sort of time scale between each stage please?
In other words, how many weeks/months the trainee would be on pre-rules money and then on Post rules money?

Thank you in advance

Trainee Driver (Pre-Rules) - £31,382 plus £2056 London weighting. On this salary for approx 3 months.

Trainee Driver (Post Rules) - £42,326 plus £2056 London weighting. On this salary until you pass your Final Competency assessment (ICA) - when you are ready, but expect a minimum of 225 driving hours with a Driving Instructor. Don't rush as you only get 2 attempts, and if you fail twice it's game over.

1st Year Driver - £59,084 plus £2056 London Weighting after passing ICA

Driver - £63,294 plus £2056 London Weighting

 

[198ksw]

Trainee Driver (Pre-Rules) - £31,382 plus £2056 London weighting. On this salary for approx 3 months.

Trainee Driver (Post Rules) - £42,326 plus £2056 London weighting. On this salary until you pass your Final Competency assessment (ICA) - when you are ready, but expect a minimum of 225 driving hours with a Driving Instructor. Don't rush as you only get 2 attempts, and if you fail twice it's game over.

1st Year Driver - £59,084 plus £2056 London Weighting after passing ICA

Driver - £63,294 plus £2056 London Weighting

Thanks for this Quin79.

You are with Southern are you not?

How are you finding the training?
Are you out of the classroom yet?

 

[43066]

Don't rush as you only get 2 attempts, and if you fail twice it's game over.

Absolutely. Of course, if you’re truly shocking, you won’t even get the second attempt!

 

[Quin79]

Absolutely. Of course, if you’re truly shocking, you won’t even get the second attempt!

I'm sure there haven't been many in that situation over the years