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For a number of months they've run in place of Sprinters on Liverpool Norwich many times, but haven't actually been booked. The three carriage ex-SR /4s tend to do that a lot more than the two carriage ex-WM /5s, though both have done it. There's a rather good picture somewhere that someone took of two EMR 170/4s passing in service at either Warrington Central or Widnes, and I believe the CrossCountry 170 that was hired in ended up doing a Liverpool Norwich service in full; I'd personally find that somewhat of an upgrade if I found myself in the first class section - only that 170 though, as the others are relentlessly shabby.Are 170s operating west of Sheffield now?
Tuesday's 1L10 1051 Liverpool Lime Street to Norwich was 170420.
Currently the Nova 3 is booked to work only:Weren't the Nova's due to start running on the South route from the December timetable change? Doesn't seem to be happening so far!
1B64 0543 Man Apt - Cleethorpes &
1B85 1524 Cleethorpes - Liv Lime St,
but the reality is, the booked 68+MK5a set often does not materialise, and when it does the return is often truncated at Manchester Piccadilly. The usage of Nova 3 sets continues to be very poor especially when 3-185 is being used increasingly often for busy services, but I think staff training comes down to a lot of it.
Last Friday, 1B64 was 3-185 vice 5-68/MK5a. On Monday, Tuesday and Thursday it does not appear to have run at all. Yesterday, it was 3-185 vice 5-68/MK5a, started late at Manchester Piccadilly, and terminated short at Sheffield.
Last Friday, 1B85 was 3-185 vice 5-68/MK5a. 1B85 doesn't appear to have run at all this week, not according to RTT departures between 1500 and 1600 at Cleethorpes, anyway.
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