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Southern Class 313 withdrawal/storage/scrapping updates

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blelic said:
Does anyone know how many 313s are currently used on a daily basis, as the Hove and some Portsmouth trains have been swapped to 377s?
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Only one of the three Brighton to Portsmouth turns is a 377. The 09:00 and 10:00 off Brighton are still 313s, repeating every three hours.

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Islineclear3_1 said:
Cheers but I am looking further back...from 2013....

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205 is booked to work today but not on Seafords. Engineering work tomorrow means it may not even be out...
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I don't have the actual diagrams but they were similar to today for the services that still run.

West Worthing 3 units
Lewes 1 unit
Portsmouth 3 units
Littlehampton/Bognor/Portsmouth 4 units
Seaford 3 units
Hove shuttle 1 unit

The 16th diagram did Brighton-Ore-Hastings-Ore-Brighton departing around 08:20. It used the bay platform at Hastings which was very unusual for an EMU. It then stabled. I think it went to Littlehampton in the afternoon. There was also a Brighton to Eastbourne run in the pm peak. I can't recall how it fitted in with the diagrams. Possibly the Lewes shuttle diagram?
 
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Bikeman78 said:
Only one of the three Brighton to Portsmouth turns is a 377. The 09:00 and 10:00 off Brighton are still 313s, repeating every three hours.

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I don't have the actual diagrams but they were similar to today for the services that still run.

West Worthing 3 units
Lewes 1 unit
Portsmouth 3 units
Littlehampton/Bognor/Portsmouth 4 units
Seaford 3 units
Hove shuttle 1 unit

The 16th diagram did Brighton-Ore-Hastings-Ore-Brighton departing around 08:20. It used the bay platform at Hastings which was very unusual for an EMU. It then stabled. I think it went to Littlehampton in the afternoon. There was also a Brighton to Eastbourne run in the pm peak. I can't recall how it fitted in with the diagrams. Possibly the Lewes shuttle diagram?
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Twas 2 units for Lewes
 
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that1pepfan said:
Twas 2 units for Lewes
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No, Bikeman78 is correct: back in 2013, it was only one unit on the hourly Lewes - Brighton service. The frequency wasn't doubled until May 2018, when 313s stopped regularly serving Eastbourne and Hastings.

As I recall, it was the single Lewes unit which did the PM peak Eastbourne run (I think it formed the 17.52 off Brighton).
 
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No, Bikeman78 is correct: back in 2013, it was only one unit on the hourly Lewes - Brighton service. The frequency wasn't doubled until May 2018, when 313s stopped regularly serving Eastbourne and Hastings.

As I recall, it was the single Lewes unit which did the PM peak Eastbourne run (I think it formed the 17.52 off Brighton).
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Oh ok sorry
 
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Bikeman78 said:
Only one of the three Brighton to Portsmouth turns is a 377. The 09:00 and 10:00 off Brighton are still 313s, repeating every three hours.
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Thank you, so does that mean currently with the 313s there is:

- 2 units Portsmouth
- 3 units Seaford
- 4 units Bognor/Littlehampton/Portsmouth

So 9 diagrams in total at the moment?
 
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I travelled on one of the Seafords 313 on Friday, and noted that a GX 387 was running in place of a 313 diagram!
 
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What diagrams are usually considered the most intensive for a 313 to work, and thus most likely to wear them down?
 
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I shudder to think of the consequences of removing another fleet with no replacement
 
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PGAT said:
I shudder to think of the consequences of removing another fleet with no replacement
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We’ve gone through it before, hopefully this time around, Southern aren’t willing to cut as many services to cover the hole.
 
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I shudder to think of the consequences of removing another fleet with no replacement
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As soon as SWR get their 701s earning money, we should be seeing a cascade of stock which should see southern getting some 377/5s back. It was planned for last summer. Havent heard that this has been shelved.
 
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Slightly off topic however does anybody know what unit was parked up on plat. 8 at Brighton doing COVID tests in 2020/2021.
 
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My son wants to catch a 313 from Brighton tomorrow (Saturday) afternoon. Does anyone know if and how often they are likely to run? We’re making a special trip from London, so keen to have any info so I can manage expectations. Thank you.
 
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