LeonO
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049 in service tonight
What is OTDR/OTMR, please?The issue is in regards to the OTDR/OTMR not working correctly on the 777s.
On Train Date Recorder / On Train Monitoring Recorder.What is OTDR/OTMR, please?
The work has physically started at Southport.Last to be introduced on the network. Southport needs infrastructure mods to accept them in multiple.
What has happened now?More 777 problems again today barely 4 hours after coming back full time
At least one 777 taken out of service this morning. The 1050 Central-Kirkby has just exited Leeds St tunnels as a 507/508 (I can see the trains pass but too far away to make out unit numbers).What has happened now?
Not too sure but there was a cancellation at 9:30 ish from Kirkby and the next service starting at Sandhills so presuming the unit swap took placeWhat has happened now?
507001At least one 777 taken out of service this morning. The 1050 Central-Kirkby has just exited Leeds St tunnels as a 507/508 (I can see the trains pass but too far away to make out unit numbers).
As I've said several times, we did warn that there would be issues when they were introduced, but people laughed whenever I warned people about what was to come..Shambolic. My train from Southport had a long wait outside Sandhills due to the faulty 777 but mercifully didn't skip-stop to Hunts Cross. I should have had a bet on problems this morning as soon as it was announced 777s were back.
This.As I've said several times, we did warn that there would be issues when they were introduced, but people laughed whenever I warned people about what was to come..
If you bought a car on hp and the payments where going out but you didn't have the car for at least another year you would be a bit peeved.
That won't come as news to anybody, although I don't remember seeing any advance warning from Merseyrail that services may be less reliable for a period whilst these new trains are introduced.As I've said several times, we did warn that there would be issues when they were introduced
I don’t think the last statement is particularly representative of the situation. If they weren’t fit for service they wouldn’t be running and the only way to see if the issues are fixed is by putting them back in. As someone else above has said it will be forgotten soonThat won't come as news to anybody, although I don't remember seeing any advance warning from Merseyrail that services may be less reliable for a period whilst these new trains are introduced.
Bang goes another one, the unit on the 1313 Kirkby - Liv Central now. This goes beyond inevitable 'teething problems' with new trains. These units are simply not fit for service at present, such is their reliability.
Apples to oranges. You can’t compare a mass produced vehicle (with consumer protection to boot) to a bespoke train that has a contract behind it that will quite explicitly lay out all of the milestones, availability targets and penalties for missing them.If you bought a car on hp and the payments where going out but you didn't have the car for at least another year you would be a bit peeved.
I sadly suspect that at this time in 2024 there'll be another thread with very similar content regarding Class 555!This.
People need to calm down with some of their criticism, nobody (here or in the land of PR) has been claiming it would all be plain sailing, introducing new trains is tricky and with such an intensive service it can cause temporary chaos. In a years time
these past few weeks will all be forgotten.
Two of the three which started the day have failed and been taken off, causing multiple cancellations, again. Sorry, but I wouldn't call that fit for service, or fit for purpose if you prefer. I don't doubt things will improve but this is a particularly rocky start by a new class.I don’t think the last statement is particularly representative of the situation. If they weren’t fit for service they wouldn’t be running and the only way to see if the issues are fixed is by putting them back in. As someone else above has said it will be forgotten soon
Very soon, Merseyrail might as well rename itself Merseyrailreplacementbus.
That makes it alright does it? We told you you wouldn’t get a decent service when we introduced the new trains so stop moaning about it.As I've said several times, we did warn that there would be issues when they were introduced, but people laughed whenever I warned people about what was to come..
I don't think we can say anything for certain, but it is something to watch. Because it'll tell us if it's the trains themselves that are the problem, or if it's Merseyrail itself that is the problem.I sadly suspect that at this time in 2024 there'll be another thread with very similar content regarding Class 555!
Merseyrail will experience some software issues that will be patched onto the 555s.I don't think we can say anything for certain, but it is something to watch. Because it'll tell us if it's the trains themselves that are the problem, or if it's Merseyrail itself that is the problem.