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What is the "good idea"?
It has been practice for years for the first of the new registrations to be seen before the 1st of September/March.
 

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The BYD / ADL batch for Go North West - taken from BLOTW buslistsontheweb.co.uk:
2003 - LG73FXZ (originally intended as LG23FBU)
2004 - LG73FYA (originally intended as LG23FBV)
2005 - LG73FYB (originally intended as LG23FBX)
2006 - LG73FVZ
2007 - LG73FWA
2008 - LG73FWB
2009 - LG73FWC
2010 - LG73FWD
2011 - LG73FWE
2012 - LG73FWF
2013 - LG73FWH
2014 - LG73FWJ
2015 - LG73FWK
2016 - LG73FWL
2017 - LG73FWM
2018 - LG73FWN
2019 - LG73FWO
2020 - LG73FWP
2021 - LG73FWR
2022 - LG73FWS
2023 - LG73FWT
2024 - LG73FWU
2025 - LG73FWV
2026 - LG73FWW
2027 - LG73FWX
2028 - LG73FWY
2029 - LG73FWZ
2030 - LG73FXA
2031 - LG73FXB
2032 - LG73FXC
2033 - LG73FXD
2034 - LG73FXE
2035 - LG73FXF
2036 - LG73FXH
2037 - LG73FXJ
2038 - LG73FXK

2041 - LG73FXO
2040 and 2042-50 have LG73* marks
 
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The BYD / ADL batch for Go North West - taken from BLOTW buslistsontheweb.co.uk:
2003 - LG73FXZ (originally intended as LG23FBU)
2004 - LG73FYA (originally intended as LG23FBV)
2005 - LG23FYB (originally intended as LG23FBX)
2006 - LG73FVZ
2007 - LG73FWA
2008 - LG73FWB
2009 - LG73FWC
2010 - LG73FWD
2011 - LG73FWE
2012 - LG73FWF
2013 - LG73FWH
2014 - LG73FWJ
2015 - LG73FWK
2016 - LG73FWL
2017 - LG73FWM
2018 - LG73FWN
2019 - LG73FWO
2020 - LG73FWP
2021 - LG73FWR
2022 - LG73FWS
2023 - LG73FWT
2024 - LG73FWU
2025 - LG73FWV
2026 - LG73FWW
2027 - LG73FWX
2028 - LG73FWY
2029 - LG73FWZ
2030 - LG73FXA
2031 - LG73FXB
2032 - LG73FXC
2033 - LG73FXD
2034 - LG73FXE
2035 - LG73FXF
2036 - LG73FXH
2037 - LG73FXJ
2038 - LG73FXK

2041 - LG73FXO
2040 and 2042-50 have LG73* marks

2005 is LG73FYB
 

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Some buses to look out for getting 73 plates (in terms of London buses):
Abellio London: The GB Kite spotted with the Abellio spec, and the C3 and 363’s batch of Electroliners
Go Ahead London: Ee100 + Ee196-204. None of these have appeared on the DVLA yet.

There is a picture of a Mercedes Benz Tourismo on the Oxford & Chiltern bus page of PU73HAM - owned by Pullmans Coaches.
A brand new arrival on August 29th our first 73 plate.
 

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Some buses to look out for getting 73 plates (in terms of London buses):
Abellio London: The GB Kite spotted with the Abellio spec, and the C3 and 363’s batch of Electroliners
Go Ahead London: Ee100 + Ee196-204. None of these have appeared on the DVLA yet.

There is a picture of a Mercedes Benz Tourismo on the Oxford & Chiltern bus page of PU73HAM - owned by Pullmans Coaches.
Yes both Pulhams and Henshaws in Gloucestershire have 73 registered vehicles ready for service.
 

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Most of Merseytravel's hydrogen E400s will probably be 73 registered for Arriva and Stagecoach, plus I would think the majority of TfGM's E400 BYDs will also be for the imminent Bolton and Wigan franchise.
 
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Most of Merseytravel's hydrogenated E400s will probably be 73 registered for Arriva and Stagecoach plus I would think the majority of TfGM's E400 BYDs will also be for the imminent Bolton and Wigan franchise.
In terms of the TfGM BYD E400 EVs, most of the first 50 buses are 73 reg (read response 5 to this thread: 2001/2002 retain their intended 23 plates).
 

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delaine traditionally the first to put a new reg bus onto the road. Do they have a new bus on order? There is also a press release from Go South Coast showing the first of their new batch of E400's for the M1 and M2 "More" services that they say will enter service imminently (tomorrow?)
 

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D&P Coaches of Farnborough, Hampshire, have taken delivery of all-over white 55 seater Mercedes-Benz Tourismos BF73 CBX/Y.

Source: https://flic.kr/p/2oZbsjg

(Image shows the two coaches posed face to face)
 

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YX73OWO, Stagecoach Merseyside & South Lancashire E400MMC, number unknown however pic seen of it at Rock Ferry depot....
 

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delaine traditionally the first to put a new reg bus onto the road. Do they have a new bus on order? There is also a press release from Go South Coast showing the first of their new batch of E400's for the M1 and M2 "More" services that they say will enter service imminently (tomorrow?)
They have an Enviro 400city on order but not sure when it is due for delivery.
 

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Some of First Yorks GB Kites (73 reg) have appeared on the DVLA within just 14 hours
Bus Lists on the Web (buslistontheweb.co.uk) already have the first one with a confirmed fleet code listed in the table below, and the other two are only confirmed to be GB Kites according to Motorscan (motorscan.co.uk) which I believe takes data from the DVLA. As more information is found, I will do updates accordingly.

This vehicle ML73DYJ is a Purple WRIGHTBUS GB KITE ELECTROLINER​

This vehicle ML73DYM is a Purple WRIGHTBUS GB KITE ELECTROLINER​

Fleet CodeRegistration Plate
63651ML73DYH
?????ML73DYJ
?????ML73DYM
 

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Not City, but standard MMC body. Three were in service today (one sighted by myself, the others showing on bustimes.org).
Definitely a City according to this article;


Relevant bit below;

Transition to ADL

Much of the Delaine fleet is made up of Wrightbus-bodied Volvos, and the company had been a loyal Volvo customer for 25 years. Prior to that, it purchased vehicles from Leyland before the company was bought out by Volvo. For bodywork, the choice was East Lancs customer, but Delaine switched to Wrightbus when the East Lancs brand disappeared.

Delaine continued with the Wright-Volvo combination until Wrightbus ceased trading in 2019. At the time, it had two vehicles on order, though thankfully they had not yet started moving down the production line.

Alexander Dennis had been pressing the company for years to try its product, and so an Enviro200 demonstrator was brought into the fleet. The vehicle proved very successful, and Delaine is now in the process of replacing vehicles in its fleet with new Alexander Dennis buses.

So far, five 11.8m Enviro200MMCs have joined the fleet, the most recent (AD72 DBL) joining in September. The programme for these new single-deckers is scheduled end in Spring 2023, by which time six in total should have been delivered. The company has also ordered its first Alexander Dennis double-decker, an Enviro400 City, for late summer 2023.

“The fuel saving compared to the Volvos they are replacing is incredible,” Anthony enthused. “We’re seeing a 35% better return on fuel.

“We plan to continue ordering Enviro400s as a gradual fleet replacement, but there is a concern about the availability of diesel buses coming to an end before new technology is available and cost-effective.”
 
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Not City, but standard MMC body. Three were in service today (one sighted by myself, the others showing on bustimes.org).
I think we're talking at cross purposes: Delaine have an Enviro400 City on order; the three new Go South Coast buses (HJ73 JJV/X/Z) are Enviro400 MMCs
 

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YX73OWO, Stagecoach Merseyside & South Lancashire E400MMC, number unknown however pic seen of it at Rock Ferry depot....

Also some E400MMCs that have already been delivered to Rock Ferry on 23 plates (but not entered service yet) will gain 73 plates instead, not sure how that works.
 

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not entered service
Also some E400MMCs that have already been delivered to Rock Ferry on 23 plates (but not entered service yet) will gain 73 plates instead, not sure how that works.

It's to do with the date when they're officially registered rather than delivered. The vehicles are delivered with "booked" registrations, but they're often not officially registered (I believe thats why most brand new vehicles on delivery have the regs covered up/not applied now, as with the increase in ANPR cameras, it flags up reports to police of unregistered/uninsured vehicles). Obviously if they've been delivered in August with 23 plates, but they aern't registered until September (they wouldn't be able to use them on the roads before being registered, not even for type training/non public work), then they'll fall into the 73-plate window.
 

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It's to do with the date when they're officially registered rather than delivered. The vehicles are delivered with "booked" registrations, but they're often not officially registered (I believe thats why most brand new vehicles on delivery have the regs covered up/not applied now, as with the increase in ANPR cameras, it flags up reports to police of unregistered/uninsured vehicles). Obviously if they've been delivered in August with 23 plates, but they aern't registered until September (they wouldn't be able to use them on the roads before being registered, not even for type training/non public work), then they'll fall into the 73-plate window.

I see, the new buses could have been registered on a 23 plate & be ready to use straight away, but the bus company decided to keep them in store so they can register them on a 73 plate, & so cant be used until registered
 

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I see, the new buses could have been registered on a 23 plate & be ready to use straight away, but the bus company decided to keep them in store so they can register them on a 73 plate, & so cant be used until registered
If they've already been registered on the 23-plates, they wouldn't be able to re-register them on 73-plates, but until its registered, the plate its carrying is of no use, as it'll ping ANPR cameras as unregistered/uninsured. In the UK, you can re-register a vehicle with a dateless registration (Northern Ireland plates are common, MXZ3101 etc) or with UK style plates (A101BBA, AA51KXK style and even older versions) as long as its the same registration period or older-so you can't re-register a vehicle to make it look newer than what it is, but you can make it appear older.

Some of the dealer stock that gets bought may have been build several months/years before it is registered. Sometimes the dealers/manufacturers may have un-registered stock available for immediate purchase or as part of cancelled orders awaiting new buyers, this stock may sit un-registered for several months/years after being built, but won't be registered until they've got a buyer, so it'll gain a registration plate in the current registration plate that its registered in. I'm sure TM Travel bought YJ53VBM and/or YN54SYG from dealer stock, and I'm sure that had been sat built but unused for a year or so. Sometime dealers/owners may be forced to register the stock before they have a buyer/use for them in certain circumstances,. Usually when a new "euro" engine comes out (euro4, euro5, euro 6 etc.), there'll be a deadline set to register previous euro rated engined vehicles by, so if they are not registered by that date, they'd need retrofitting to make them compliant with the new euro ratings before being registered.

A quick car tax search shows that MA23TPZ was registered on 21st of August, so I would suspect it won't gain a 73-plate with it being registered within the 23-plate window.
 

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Not my photo, but Go Ahead London BYD ADL E200 EV SEe245 is LG73FYE
Seen two more images and taken more data from them (not mine)
Fleet CodeRegistration Plate
SEe243LG73FYC
SEe244???????
SEe246LG73FYF
 

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The following are registered:-

"Silver WRIGHTBUS STREETDECK ELECTROLINER" (Believed to be Norwich ones):
BK73AEV
BK73AEW
BK73AEX
BK73AEY
BK73AEZ
BK73AFA
BK73AFE
BK73AFF
BK73AFJ
BK73AFN
BK73AFO

"Purple WRIGHTBUS GB KITE ELECTROLINER" (Believed to be the York ones):
ML73DYH - 63651
ML73DYJ - 63652
ML73DYM
ML73DYN
ML73DYO
ML73DYP
ML73DYS
ML73DYT
ML73DYU

Cheers.
 

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The following are registered:-

"Purple WRIGHTBUS GB KITE ELECTROLINER" (Believed to be the York ones):
ML73DYH - 63651
ML73DYJ - 63652
ML73DYM
ML73DYN
ML73DYO
ML73DYP
ML73DYS
ML73DYT
ML73DYU

Cheers.
According to Bus Lists on the Web (buslistsontheweb.co.uk), these are the fleet codes.
Fleet CodeRegistration
63653ML73DYM
63654ML73DYN
63655ML73DYO
63656ML73DYP
63657ML73DYS
63658ML73DYT
63659ML73DYU
 

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