GB News

[Typhoon]

I think it's the first time they've officially apologised for anything. Of course it's yet another Ofcom investigation to throw onto the pile. There was a rumour that they'd be starting a second online channel, or at least confining their more "controversial" presenters to Youtube clips where Ofcom can't get at them. I wonder if this is a sign of things to come.

The person they're "talking" about is understandably rather shocked. https://twitter.com/AvaSantina/status/1706777983241822705

Couldn't find a single reference to it on the GB News website, they are emphasising the important stuff

Arise Sir Jacob! Rees Mogg receives knighthood joined by family as Priti Patel made a Dame​

Texas Governor hits back against Biden as he doubles down on razor wire to stop migrants​

Novak Djokovic sends fans crazy with his golf swing at Ryder Cup​

Hedge row forces council to intervene after neighbour left 'tearful' over 'ugly' foliage​

Brooke Shields shares secret to glowing skin at 58​

Jeffrey Archer highlights key problem for Starmer in his bid for power​

These are amongst the first 11 stories featured (+ some stuff about migrant boats - Channel and Med - and views of people I have never heard of + more on Archer - new book out?)

Still showing:

Laurence Fox​

Fri 29th Sep - 20:00

 

[Gloster]

Next stage is that Fox blames the woke deep state for conspiring to silence him (if only) and vows to stand up for whatever he stands up for this week. Then come the appeals for money to support his fight against…well, somebody or other.

 

[birchesgreen]

Next stage is that Fox blames the woke deep state for conspiring to silence him (if only) and vows to stand up for whatever he stands up for this week. Then come the appeals for money to support his fight against…well, somebody or other.

Grifters gotta grift.

 

[brad465]

He's now slagging off other fellow colleagues/like-minded personalities, including accusing Julia Hartley-Brewer of virtue signalling and Mark Dolan of trotting out his boss' orders. Does this sort of behaviour qualify for being sectioned?

 

[Noddy]

Source?

Is it any different from, say the BBC, which does not challenge any views expressed by contributors if they match their own views, whilst decrying any opposing views ? For example, its climate correspondent, Justin Rowlatt, was highly critical of Sunak's slipping of the Net Zero deadline, even though it brings us in line with Europe, and he did not mention the adverse impact on the cost of living, nor the fact that the UK has reduced its greenhouse gas emissions by the most of any G7 country, whilst France is up 22% and China 300%. And the UK share of emissions is less than 1%. ( https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-speech-on-net-zero-20-september-2023 )

Hardly balanced reporting from an organisation whose aims are to 'inform, educate and entertain'.

I would strongly suggest that you listen to the More or Less episode (27/09/23) which interviews Hannah Richie from the (frankly brilliant) Our World in Data website. As she points out even though the UK reduction in emissions is the highest in the G7 (which is good) it’s because it was starting out from such a high level in the first place. UK emissions are still higher than some other members of the G7 (eg France). So return to your point do you think Justin Rowlett has time to explain this all? As well as the all the issues of the cost of living crisis which you also suggest (for example if we had more wind (which the government effectively banned on land in England in 2015), our bills would have cheaper last winter when we need them to be).

More or Less - NHS consultant pay, net zero claims and Scotland's ferry woes - BBC Sounds

Are consultants in England really paid an average of £120,000 a year?

www.bbc.co.uk

Have you ever watched the Jacob Rees Mogg show? Jacob is very knowledgable and measured in his interviews, and gives his guests a very fair interview. The other day he was interviewing the former Labour MP, Stephen Pound, and they were both arguing their corner in a very engaging way - none of the 'who can shout loudest' type of interview. In my view it was very belanced. You may not agree with whatever either said, but in no way could you say it was propaganda or spreading falsehoods - facts were trading with facts.

The issue is that no MP should be paid to be an interviewer on TV. Regardless of how good or bad JRM is at it he is an MP and MPs should being doing their day job, working for us. Not themselves and/or TV channels.

 

[Mag_seven]

Breaking News - now Wootton has been suspended by GB News:

Laurence Fox and Dan Wootton suspended by GB News over Ava Evans insults

Dan Wootton and Laurence Fox have been suspended over insults against Ava Evans on Wootton's show.

www.bbc.co.uk

Dan Wootton suspended from GB News after comments on his show by Laurence Fox, broadcaster says

 

[Mojo]

I really enjoy watching his programme. Hope he comes back soon. I wonder if there’s much of a future given that Dan is one of their biggest stars.

 

[SuspectUsual]

Wootton describes himself on his Twitter / X bio as “executive editor” of his programme on GB News. I assume that gives him some additional level of accountability over and above being a mere presenter?

 

[Gloster]

If Wootton has, as he suggests, at least some editorial control and if Fox had, as he seem to have implied, advised the show of what he was going to say beforehand there is the possibility of an all-out war between them. It is quite possible that Fox advised that he going to say things that would, in most places, be unacceptable, but on GBNews are acceptable ‘free speech’, but then went further than he said he would. Or maybe Martin Branning just wasn’t paying attention. It does seem that GBNews’ chiefs have realised that this time they may have gone too far and the publicity dividend is negative even among their supporters.

 

[skyhigh]

Breaking News - now Wootton has been suspended by GB News:

Laurence Fox and Dan Wootton suspended by GB News over Ava Evans insults

Dan Wootton and Laurence Fox have been suspended over insults against Ava Evans on Wootton's show.

www.bbc.co.uk

Which is only fair. You can't suspend Fox without Wootton while Wootton is on the same screen grinning like The Cheshire Cat and not challenging a word Fox is saying. Particularly if the screenshot shared by Fox afterwards is genuine.

It's what happens next that will be interesting.

 

[Gathursty]

I'm not a fan of Wootton and his endless hate towards Harry and Meghan so it's just desserts for him.

I don't think GB News is evil personified but there are elements that could be toned down like Neil Oliver, Mogg, Fox and Wootton.

To be honest, I was disappointed that Andrew Neil left and reckon that the news station needs to snap back to something like a Geoff Norcott world view in order to bring some respectability to the channel. There's nothing wrong in talking about right wing views as there isn't with talking about left wing views so long as they are kept in check and you allow criticism.

 

[bahnause]

To be honest, I was disappointed that Andrew Neil left and reckon that the news station needs to snap back to something like a Geoff Norcott world view in order to bring some respectability to the channel. There's nothing wrong in talking about right wing views as there isn't with talking about left wing views so long as they are kept in check and you allow criticism.

The only thing GB News has to do is disappear forever into the gutter where they belong. Their disgusting figureheads are welcome to go with the channel, they will not be missed as this latest example beautifully demonstrates. This station is far from any kind of balanced reporting. Parliamentarians interviewing their party colleagues? Ridiculous.

 

[Gathursty]

The only thing GB News has to do is disappear forever into the gutter where they belong. Their disgusting figureheads are welcome to go with the channel, they will not be missed as this latest example beautifully demonstrates. This station is far from any kind of balanced reporting. Parliamentarians interviewing their party colleagues? Ridiculous.

If they worked on your complaints, would you be okay with GB News continuing to air?

 

[bahnause]

If they worked on your complaints, would you be okay with GB News continuing to air?

Why should they? What they do is their business model. Being what they are and doing wha they do is the whole point of them. No miracles are gonna happen. This episode has clearly shown whose brainchild they are. A vile, sexist rant against a journalist unchallengend and even supported by a grinning, joking "moderator".

 

[Gathursty]

Why should they? What they do is their business model. Being what they are and doing wha they do is the whole point of them. No miracles are gonna happen. This episode has clearly shown whose brainchild they are. A vile, sexist rant against a journalist unchallengend and even supported by a grinning, joking "moderator".

I'll cut my question. Would you be okay with a station that had right wing views (but not to the extreme of Fox News/(current GB News)) such as a complement to Channel 4 News?

I do feel especially on social media that certain views are ok but the moment you stray but a little from the edge, one is castigated. It's so important to not do this.

 

[bahnause]

I'll cut my question. Would you be okay with a station that had right wing views (but not to the extreme of Fox News/(current GB News)) such as a complement to Channel 4 News?

The UK has long had strict rules on accuracy and impartiality in broadcast news. If GB News does not like this, well, then don't be (or better pretend to be) a news channel.

I do feel especially on social media that certain views are ok but the moment you stray but a little from the edge, one is castigated. It's so important to not do this.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If you spout vile things into your audience, don't whinge about them pushing back. They are allowed to express their opinion too. It is not a one way street. A healthy discussion with different views and arguments is desired. The interview(?)yesterday was not a discussion. It was a rather disgusting attack on a single person.

 

[nlogax]

Imagine employing Wootton and Fox and then being shocked and appalled at the completely inevitable outcome. Proper 'leopards ate my face' moment if ever there was one.

 

[Gathursty]

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kikitchen.

You're entitled to hate GB News and wish it to be cancelled. I've stopped watching it. I don't think it should be cancelled but reformed.

I think most people who hate GB News want it to be cancelled. I can understand that. I can also see that it would make people feel vindicated in their views and go further. That is both those with right wing views and those who like to cancel things they disagree with. I think both of those are slippery slopes that British society must be alert to.

Open debate at all times even if you hate what is said.

 

[jon0844]

If the purpose of the channel was to make money, they would have reformed ages ago and become more balanced. But the funding and the people on the channel are there to promote a narrative and feed the culture wars that the Tories seem to think will win them the next election.

It has been making huge losses since day one, but I suspect that's a worthy investment and profit isn't actually a consideration. I am sure the people running the channel know full well they'll never make profit - but the channel has got far more attention 'off the pitch' so-to-speak that it is probably considered a success.

Suspending Dan over this might also be a bonus for management who don't have to deal with the investigations into his other issues, as they can sweep that under the carpet but still get him off the air.

As Laurence, Nigel and Richard (Tice) will have realised by now, there isn't a huge silent majority out there that support their views. The channel simply gives that impression, and may get other people to support such views because they believe more people think the same. They clearly don't and when people have a chance to attend a GB News event, or vote in an election, hardly anyone turns up (or votes) so it's clear they're mostly talking to an empty room.

 

[JamesT]

If the purpose of the channel was to make money, they would have reformed ages ago and become more balanced. But the funding and the people on the channel are there to promote a narrative and feed the culture wars that the Tories seem to think will win them the next election.

It has been making huge losses since day one, but I suspect that's a worthy investment and profit isn't actually a consideration. I am sure the people running the channel know full well they'll never make profit - but the channel has got far more attention 'off the pitch' so-to-speak that it is probably considered a success.

Suspending Dan over this might also be a bonus for management who don't have to deal with the investigations into his other issues, as they can sweep that under the carpet but still get him off the air.

As Laurence, Nigel and Richard (Tice) will have realised by now, there isn't a huge silent majority out there that support their views. The channel simply gives that impression, and may get other people to support such views because they believe more people think the same. They clearly don't and when people have a chance to attend a GB News event, or vote in an election, hardly anyone turns up (or votes) so it's clear they're mostly talking to an empty room.

Their viewing figures are up 50% in the last year (2.2m for April 2022, 3.4m for July 2023), so what they’re doing is working to some extent.
It’s true that’s about a quarter of the BBC News Channel, but would becoming more balanced necessarily increase those numbers? I get the impression that many viewers of GB News want something different from BBC or Sky, so becoming more mainstream might lose them their existing viewers with no guarantee they’d gain more.
And if you think GB News is talking to an empty room, how would you describe TalkTV?

 

[jon0844]

TalkTV has been rumoured to be on the verge of being shuttered (returning to radio only) for some time, and now Rupert has stepped down that process might be speeded up.

Alternatively, the new management might attempt to make it a little more balanced and invest in making it a TV station first, simulcast on radio, than a radio station with a camera pointing at the presenter. Who knows.

 

[bahnause]

You're entitled to hate GB News and wish it to be cancelled. I've stopped watching it. I don't think it should be cancelled but reformed.

I think most people who hate GB News want it to be cancelled. I can understand that. I can also see that it would make people feel vindicated in their views and go further. That is both those with right wing views and those who like to cancel things they disagree with. I think both of those are slippery slopes that British society must be alert to.

Open debate at all times even if you hate what is said.

The only one talking about "cancelling" ist you. It’s turned into a catch-all for when people in power face consequences for their actions or receive any type of criticism, something that they’re not used to. Being called out for unacceptable speech or manners is not "being cancelled". Fox News being held accountable and having to cough up a huge amount of money for spreading lies ist not "being cancelled". A news outlet being fined for being in breach with the law by not adhering to a fair and unbalanced coverage is not being cancelled.

Short: If you decide to flush down your own company down the toilet, you're not being cancelled.

 

[AlterEgo]

The only one talking about "cancelling" ist you. It’s turned into a catch-all for when people in power face consequences for their actions or receive any type of criticism, something that they’re not used to. Being called out for unacceptable speech or manners is not "being cancelled". Fox News being held accountable and having to cough up a huge amount of money for spreading lies ist not "being cancelled". A news outlet being fined for being in breach with the law by not adhering to a fair and unbalanced coverage is not being cancelled.

Short: If you decide to flush down your own company down the toilet, you're not being cancelled.

Quite.

Fox's sexist rant was a real nadir for British "news" broadcasting.

 

[bahnause]

Fox's sexist rant was a real nadir for British "news" broadcasting.

Until now. The false apology by Wootton took it down to a whole new level. Wasn't he te guy who wrote hundreds of hateful stories about Caroline Flack in The Sun which were hastily deleted when she committed suicide?

Ironic that he is beeing taken down by Laurence Fox on Twitter now...

 

[DoubleLemon]

They are not news as they would then have to abide by stricter rules set by ofcom.
They were less insane conspiracy and sexist, racist and misogynistic at the start - but that wasn't getting them any viewers - they are lurching as close as they can to newsmax and the ilk in the US as that's what is getting them viewers (in my opinion this is dangerous as it could stir up threats and violence to those in the targets).

They just make stuff up and as they are not licenced as a news channel they get away with a lot more.

The recent "The News Agents" podcast is all about GB News. https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aH...d=0CCkQz4EHahcKEwiI2f7imM2BAxUAAAAAHQAAAAAQLA

Its an interesting listen.

 

[GusB]

The bastion of wokeiness, the Daily Mail, has now fired Wootton.

Dan Wootton sacked by MailOnline a day after GB News suspension

Journalist’s column and contract terminated after comments made by Laurence Fox on his GB News show

www.theguardian.com

Dan Wootton has been sacked by MailOnline the day after he was suspended by GB News for his part in an on-air discussion with actor Laurence Fox about a female journalist.

The TV anchor has been suspended from his lucrative MailOnline column since the summer over accusations he used the pseudonym “Martin Branning” to send sexually explicit messages to former colleagues. GB News declined to investigate these claims of inappropriate sexual behaviour against one of their star presenters, arguing they were alleged to have happened at a former employer.

As a result Wootton continued presenting his primetime nightly show on GB News until this week, when he was suspended over his role in a discussion with Fox about the appearance of a female journalist.

MailOnline has now ended Wootton’s contract, which was understood to give the journalist a six-figure salary in return for two columns a week.

 

[DoubleLemon]

Utterly coincidental that the financier of GBNews is looking to buy up some of the Telegraph publications at auction and thus will be submitted to a “fit and proper owner” evaluation in the near future.

 

[ld0595]

Calvin Robinson has now been suspended after posting on Twitter saying he was standing up for Dan and that GB News bosses were afraid of Ofcom and the woke mob.

GB News presenter claims he's been suspended after supporting Dan Wootton

'I have been suspended from GB News,' he wrote.

metro.co.uk

 

[Mojo]

They appear to be in self-destruct mode.

 

[class ep-09]

They appear to be in self-destruct mode.

Won’t be missed .