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I’ve seen a video that showed Rodger actually announce “South Western Railway Arterio service to:”
Something like the 5 coach 377s with increased standing space round the doorsAnd your suggestion for a train designed for high density commuter operations would be what? Narrow aisles, stuffed with too many seats, that leaves people behind on platforms?
Anne and Rodger have both recorded "South Western Railway Arterio Service To" so they are both doing it. The screens on the platforms are displaying this as well. I am quite surprised that SWR went to the effort of doing this. Arterio is a completely meaningless word to the general public. Nobody other than enthusiasts or railway workers will have any clue what Arterio means.I’ve seen a video that showed Rodger actually announce “South Western Railway Arterio service to:”
Did anyone ask why, having had 6 years, her organisation still doesn’t have a training programme agreed?Did it Waterloo > Richmond, then had to leave it to head off to work.
Claire Mann in person came and chatted with my group for a while; one of our lot got in on a BBC South TV interview
So they are immediately worse than the 458s. We wait four years for them and they are, predictably, worse than what they replace.Not exactly a revelation. We've known all along they'd be like this as that's what the DfT wants (it specifies a minimum gangway width).
Agree completely. In my business we were told don't have too many brands. It's a train. South Eastern banging on about City Beam shows why it's pointless. To me all a City Beam service means is it's a train without toilets.Anne and Rodger have both recorded "South Western Railway Arterio Service To" so they are both doing it. The screens on the platforms are displaying this as well. I am quite surprised that SWR went to the effort of doing this. Arterio is a completely meaningless word to the general public. Nobody other than enthusiasts or railway workers will have any clue what Arterio means.
Identical door positions and ABDO will allow them to put (say) stickers on the floor showing you (to high degree of accuracy) where the doors will "land", allowing people to standin front ofaway from the doors to allow quicker alighting.
Announced and displayed at Vauxhall.Anne and Rodger have both recorded "South Western Railway Arterio Service To" so they are both doing it. The screens on the platforms are displaying this as well.
Swr have clearly picked a pretty quiet time for the ordinary passenger so it seems to be a pretty empty serviceI wonder what the ordinary passengers thought of it - the number of staff on board may have made them think there was a ticket inspection going on......
RTT shows it as M-F 8-12 Jan, but it didn't run yesterday, so that only leaves four days for it to run.So what are the diagrams? Paul Clifton says they will be 4 times a week on the same single diagram as today due to staffing. Is this Monday - Thurs or Tues - Fri or something else? I guess we won't know til the end of the week? At least it's progress, hopefully we see the rapid introduction of them now, but it seems training is still s l o w
There were several who seemed to be using it as a normal service, rather than gricers or staff. (heavy luggage, families, etc) but they did seem to be in the minority.Swr have clearly picked a pretty quiet time for the ordinary passenger so it seems to be a pretty empty service
Anne and Rodger have both recorded "South Western Railway Arterio Service To" so they are both doing it. The screens on the platforms are displaying this as well. I am quite surprised that SWR went to the effort of doing this. Arterio is a completely meaningless word to the general public. Nobody other than enthusiasts or railway workers will have any clue what Arterio means.
I think MTR-style floor stickers were planned pre covid. However, an easier brand like SWR Metro would be better.There could be a practical reason for the Arterio branding -- floor stickers showing passengers where to queue. There would need to be some way of indicating which trains the stickers apply to.
It might just be a problem specific to the rear coach. Whenever I was in the other coaches, I could hear the announcements pretty well. However, half of the announcements he made just repeated what the automated announcements said.Announced and displayed at Vauxhall.
Guards announcements were not easy to hear, except the bit saying "As the automated announcement has said.......". It kept cutting out in my carriage (the rear one)
I wonder what the ordinary passengers thought of it - the number of staff on board may have made them think there was a ticket inspection going on......
Seeing as these will be used on the Reading line, absolutely notOne thing I was wondering about is whether longitudinal seating would have made sense on these trains. After all, some longitudinal seating has been retrofitted onto the Class 455s.
I think that's the idea; so it causes less disruption - and gets fewer embarrassing headlines - if it fails?SWR have clearly picked a pretty quiet time for the ordinary passenger so it seems to be a pretty empty service
The press would hear about it regardless, it's also so it can be easily slotted into service for only one run, without having to adjust existing diagrams, work out where to store the unit you took off a diagram etc, and also to help with staffing, as there is less complexity in finding extra staff for only one service. One of the most important bits is it can easily be cancelled and no one will really even know if the test is rescheduled, as before christmas, rather than having to run around reverting the diagrams and rosters.I think that's the idea; so it causes less disruption - and gets fewer embarrassing headlines - if it fails?
It's running as an extra rather than in one of the regular slots.
The two will become essentially synonymous anyway...However, an easier brand like SWR Metro would be better.
It looks like many people using the Reading trains are only travelling as far as Richmond or Feltham, and the Class 701 has an interior design that optimises standing space around the doors anyway!Seeing as these will be used on the Reading line, absolutely not
Edit, just beaten to it
From https://www.railmagazine.com/news/fleet/2024/01/05/soft-launch-planned-for-delayed-arteriosWell, clearly they are “in service” today, by they’ll very swiftly be not in service again! It’ll be some while yet I would think, assuming the statements about there being no driver training plan in place etc are true.
It is now thought that a single unit will run off-peak Monday to Friday between London Waterloo and Windsor, in order to fulfil that commitment. It will either make one single round trip each day, or work between 1000 and 1600. A driver manager and guard manager will operate the service, and the company will carry out “in-service training”.
Where is that photograph taken from?No chance I'll have time to try one out this week. About as close as I'll probably get to seeing the 701s any time soon with a handful at Wimbledon depot.
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Wide aisles which on paper can fit two people side by side are fine in theory but in practice those aisles won't see two people standing side by side when the train is crush loaded.
Or even design an interior with 2+1 style seating to increase the aisle width if you want a wide aisle with decent sized seats which has spacers between them
And the idea that two average sized people can’t fit into the seats is ludicrous anyway.Wide aisles mean people can stand back to back on (eg) 700s with their similar layout, so still doubled up compared to a narrower gangway.
Where is that photograph taken from?
Cheers.Not OP but that is just off of Durnsford Road looking into Wimbledon Depot
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