Out of interest, do you think there are any changes to the law that could usefully be made that would help?
At the very least, a substantial change to the law around private prosecutions
Out of interest, do you think there are any changes to the law that could usefully be made that would help?
Yes I think that's at least part of the answer here. I'm far from convinced that private prosecutions are a power which should be as widely available or at least as unfettered as it is currently. It would be tricky to restrict it too far I'm not sure we really want the CPS prosecuting everything from murder, theft and fraud to dodgy takeaways, fly tipping, health and safety breaches what with their own lack of resources to prosecute effectively what they already do? But equally it feels as if the power is subject to far too little real scrutiny and is just open to abuse on the basis that these organisations are "trustworthy" to act as prosecutors.At the very least, a substantial change to the law around private prosecutions
But surely the bigger problem isn't that prosecutions were brought, but rather that they were successful with evidence that was dodgy at best. The fact is that UK law hasn't kept pace with changes in technology and the standard of "innocent until proven guilty" is difficult to maintain when most members of the legal profession have no better a standard of computer literacy than the typical office worker, and the laws don't match modern-day reality.I'm not entirely sure what sort of change is required here to balance the varying issues but it certainly feels to me as if private prosecutions brought by individuals (very rare to be fair) and organisations like the Post Office, TOCs, and others should be subject to more oversight.
Yes I think that's at least part of the answer here. I'm far from convinced that private prosecutions are a power which should be as widely available or at least as unfettered as it is currently. It would be tricky to restrict it too far I'm not sure we really want the CPS prosecuting everything from murder, theft and fraud to dodgy takeaways, fly tipping, health and safety breaches what with their own lack of resources to prosecute effectively what they already do?
Unlike a certain ex MP for Mid Bedfordshire, Chris Skidmore hasn't messed about in sticking to his promise.
(letter to Jeremy Hunt to ask to be formally appointed to one of the two "crown steward" posts that automatically removes him as an MP, the workaround to not being able to directly resign)
Assuming Hunt doesn't process it that quickly, he will be able to vote against the oil and gas bill tonight
Bone doesn't need it. He was removed as soon as the recall petition succeeded. It's now up to party brass ie Sunak to move the election writ (as it will be with Skidmore's seat). If Sunak wasn't desperate to stay in power then there'd be a valid argument to not bother and wait for the May general election, but he seems utterly determined to blow the local authority election admin budget just for a few extra weeksI note that Bone seems to be dragging his heels in applying for said posts too, at least if Wikipedia is accurate (the two honourable personages holding the esteemed Crown Steward and Bailiff posts still being Ms Dorries and Mr Pincher).
It's become almost impossible for Jo or Joe Soap to bring a private prosecution in England or Wales. On the rare occasion when it looks likely to go ahead the DPP tends to take it over, regardless of whether that was desired by the aggrieved party.I'm not entirely sure what sort of change is required here to balance the varying issues but it certainly feels to me as if private prosecutions brought by individuals (very rare to be fair) and organisations like the Post Office, TOCs, and others should be subject to more oversight.
Just on a point of pedantry, custody is not an option for non-payment of TV Licence. It is available for non-payment of any fines imposed, but that is the case for fines for any offence.On the last point, the TV Licence Fee (which I support in principle if the alternative is the disintegration of the BBC) has led to many disgusting prosecutions and even more disgusting prison sentences,...
There is a public enquiry ongoing but like Grenfell Tower it will go on for years and the only people that will benefit are the legal profession. Oh that will be same legal profession that have been the prime beneficiaries of this whole saga from the start.Despite the Post Office being owned by the Government, this enquiry needs to be totally independent. As sure as eggs are eggs if the Government is involved it will drag on… and on… and on…….
Was as bad as Rishi just repeating how much money they're spending on flood defences when it was a fraction of what it was, but he just wanted to say £5bn (or whatever it is) over and over - presumably because it sounds like a lot to Joe Public.
The fact it's less seems irrelevant, just shout the same thing so the base can repeat it and sound impressed.
And of course he only turned up to talk about the floods after that had been in the news for a few days.
Maybe someone should do a series on junior doctors and their pay..
- Central government is the largest source of flood and coastal erosion risk management (FCERM) funding in England, contributing 90% in the financial year ending 2022.
- Expenditure on FCERM in England increased from £777 million in 2018 to £1.063 billion in 2021, current prices.
Moore told reporters the EA was “working incredibly hard” and that the government was spending £5.2bn over the “next cycle” to “better protect homes that have been impacted by these consequences”.
6 years, the current one being 2021-2027. One issue with this latest one has been inflation impacts as you allude to, where the initial target was to protect 336,000 homes with this money, but has since been scaled down to 200,000, despite the fact the £5.2bn is double the previous capital programme period (2015-2021).However that leads to the question how long is a funding cycle?
If it's five years (5*1.063 = £5.315bn) then the budget in actual terms will fall and will be noticeable smaller once you've sorted for inflation.
there are many flaws in their plan, but perhaps number 1 is the fact that Vennells got her since-returned CBE in 2019, primarily “for services to the post office”If the whole Horizon scandal isn't bad enough, it's nauseating that the government is attempting to act as if it's a Knight in Shining Armour in hurrying along the judicial process. They knew all the facts before the television programme but decided to do nothing.
Of course, whether it does actually hurry the process along is another matter entirely.
Was as bad as Rishi just repeating how much money they're spending on flood defences when it was a fraction of what it was, but he just wanted to say £5bn (or whatever it is) over and over - presumably because it sounds like a lot to Joe Public.
The fact it's less seems irrelevant, just shout the same thing so the base can repeat it and sound impressed.
And of course he only turned up to talk about the floods after that had been in the news for a few days.
Maybe someone should do a series on junior doctors and their pay..
there are many flaws in their plan, but perhaps number 1 is the fact that Vennells got her since-returned CBE in 2019, primarily “for services to the post office”
I don’t think it’ll cut through. The party that was in power for 14 years of the scandal (and who laid the groundwork for Horizon’s creation at the tail end of the Major govt) can’t redeem themselves now. No matter how many times their client presses alternate between claiming that Ed Davey or Keir Starmer were personally responsible for all of it.
On that polling, if replicated in the two by-elections, Labour could win Kingswood (majority 15.6% according to https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk...OneSeat®orseat=Kingswood&boundary=2019base) and by 8.4% in Wellingborough.SCOOP — BY-ELECTIONS AHOY: Wait no longer. Playbook hears the writs for two by-elections in Kingswood and Wellingborough are due to be moved on Thursday, as Tory strategists aim for February 15 as the date for both polls.
Reminder: The Conservatives are defending both seats after the departures of Chris Skidmore and Peter Bone — and while Kingswood is being scrapped in boundary changes soon anyway, Labour fancies its chances in Wellingborough.
That was quick! Officers on Labour’s ruling NEC chose Damien Egan to run in Kingswood on Tuesday night without a vote by local members. They justified it on the basis that Egan is already the candidate for Bristol North East, which will take in 40 percent of the current Kingswood seat. Check out this gap of 15 minutes between Times journalist Aubrey Allegretti’s tweets.
Just one problem: Egan is the sitting mayor of *checks notes* Lewisham, London. One Labour official predicts Egan will stand down and let his deputy take over until scheduled elections in May, telling Playbook: “We certainly wouldn’t want him to have both roles at the same time.” Michael Crick hears he could go today.
The Conservatives … are selecting their Kingswood candidate on Sunday, Playbook is told. It’s a two-horse race and Skidmore had a 11,220 majority in 2019.
Speaking of polls: Labour has a 19-point lead over the Tories in Savanta’s latest pollout this morning — the party’s biggest lead with the firm since October. Labour is on 45 percent, Tories 26, Lib Dems 10, Reform 8 and Greens 5.
Not a joke - noted journalist Kelvin Mackenzie has been banging on about it, as has the superb paper of record, the Telegraph (now that may not be entirely serious!)I hope this is a joke!
If not, then to be quite frank Starmer and/or Davey would have the moral right to sue them out of existence.
The Conservatives are playing the Post Office scandal for all it’s worth. They are not just putting themselves forward as ‘the party that is doing right by the victims’, despite having done nothing until it became a successful TV series, but also pushing as much blame as they can on to the Liberal Democrats, particularly Davey. The Liberal Democrats, notably Davey of those still in the Commons, don’t have anything to be proud of, but it is disingenuous of the Conservatives to point to their lack of action when Postal Affairs ministers when the post was rolled into other ministries and the responsibility of the Conservatives after 2015…and they didn’t do anything effective either. I am waiting for them to start claiming that Starmer is at fault for not intervening while he was DPP: I am not sure if he had the powers to do so, but who in the Telegraph, Sun, Mail, etc. is going to worry about little details like that.
Not a joke - noted journalist Kelvin Mackenzie has been banging on about it, as has the superb paper of record, the Telegraph (now that may not be entirely serious!)
Might be easiest to just link to the Telegraph's "Ed Davey" section. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ed-davey/ - with bonus mention of Starmer too, "Questions the Labour leader must answer"
Of course 30p Lee has just brought it up in parliament too, though there he is protected by parliamentary privilege (not that either of them are likely to want to sue)
Especially since the proposed solution is really bad legislation conceived in haste and to be repented at leisure.If the Election was sooner then maybe Ed Davey would be in trouble but if it's November then the Post Office scandal will not be front page news anymore.
It's a bit hyperbolic to suggest the Tories will win the GE because of this scandal
I think you're massively overstating the importance of the media. People can and do make up their own minds. The Telegraph has a circulation of around 300K, the vast majority of voters in this country will never read anything they publish.Good grief.
This disgusting media-Conservative Party propaganda collusion racket has to be dealt with firmly very soon.
The Telegraph seems to like to think of itself as important. This clearly shows it isn't. It's the very definition of the word "pretentious" and nothing more than a Tory propaganda machine. And if I were Ed Davey I would seek punitive damages from the Telegraph, enough to hurt it financially and make it think twice before pushing out Tory propaganda like this again.
If this causes the Tory Party to win the next election due to a failure of the Lib Dems to gain critical seats, it shows the UK is beyond hope. A country where Tory politicians and powerful media interests conspire, seemingly, to keep the Conservative Party in for ever more.
The UK must not be allowed to become a de-facto one-party state of the Singapore kind in which elections exist but propaganda causes people to vote for the same party again, and again, and again. First thing I would be doing if I were Starmer is to introduce tough new laws to control media bias and party political propaganda in the printed media - which would of course have to include pro-Labour propaganda.
Well, it’s like ‘social media’ also, there are plenty of people who blindly believe any old nonsense that gets posted in a totally uncritical way, then there are lots of people who won’t believe a word of it.I think you're massively overstating the importance of the media. People can and do make up their own minds. The Telegraph has a circulation of around 300K, the vast majority of voters in this country will never read anything they publish.
There have been 19 By-elections since the 2019 General Election, the Conservatives have won 3 of them. Hardly a single party state.
There are a wide selection of views in the printed media, are The Guardian, Socialist Worker, or Private Eye colluding for a Tory victory? The Telegraph has been known as the Torygraph for years, it's hardly a surprise they write pro-Conservative pieces. But you'll also find criticism of the party in their pages, though usually when they're being too wet and liberal in the paper's eyes.
First thing I would be doing if I were Starmer is to introduce tough new laws to control media bias and party political propaganda in the printed media - which would of course have to include pro-Labour propaganda.