Transpennine Route Upgrade and Electrification updates

[fishwomp]

I assume the plan is still for the former Hillhouse shed site to be used as a temporary station for Huddersfield while the big work is taking place in the station area?

I'm no longer sure. The initial plans had it being used in 2024 for one shutdown and then again in 2025. Well, they have pretty much planned or done 2024 now.. and there have been plenty buses, so if they've survived this long.. I doubt it's going to happen. Nonetheless, plenty of work has happened at Hillhouse.. and continues to - a good amount of land shifted, embankments bolstered etc..
This article from a few months back casts doubt on Hillhouse as a station:

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co...ne-rail-plan---will-hillhouse-station-happen/

Can't recall if the longer term plan is then to use this site for a new stabling location, but this would make sense with the loss of the current sidings at Huddersfield station. Hope the security will be sufficient though, given the reputation of the area.

It's back to the future!

 

[snowball]

Press release

Transpennine Route Upgrade to launch Stalybridge to Diggle public consultation

Transpennine Route Upgrade (TRU) has released images of the relocated Mossley Station and upgraded Greenfield Station ahead of launching a public consultation on 16 September 2024.

www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk

Transpennine Route Upgrade (TRU) has released images of the relocated Mossley Station and upgraded Greenfield Station ahead of launching a public consultation on 16 September 2024.

TRU is proposing major upgrades across the section of the route between Stalybridge and Diggle (Saddleworth), including improved, more accessible stations at Mossley and Greenfield, full electrification of the line and various bridge works to allow the installation of overhead line equipment (OLE) to power faster, cleaner and more reliable trains.

The consultation on this area of TRU will close on 25 October 2024 and is a chance for the public to have their say. A virtual consultation room and feedback form will open on 16 September at www.networkrail.co.uk/stalybridgetodiggle.

There will also be three in-person drop-in events to view the plans and speak with TRU staff:

18 September 2024 3pm-8pm St Peters RC Church, 119 Brierley Street, Stalybridge SK15 2E

19 September 2024 3pm-8pm Saddleworth Rangers RLFC, Shaw Hall Bank Road, Greenfield OL3 7LD

20 September 2024 3pm-8pm Mossley Methodist Church, Chapel Street, Mossley OL5 0EX

Mark Ashton, TRU Sponsor said:

“The TRU Stalybridge to Diggle (Saddleworth) public consultation is the opportunity for the public to hear about our exciting plans for the area, which includes improved, more accessible stations at Mossley and Greenfield for the first time in the route’s history.”

“We want to bring the people of Stalybridge, Heyrod, Mossley, Greenfield, Uppermill and Diggle with us on this journey. I urge the local community and businesses to look at our plans through our virtual consultation room or at the in-person events and let us know their thoughts through our feedback form.”

Mossley station is set to be relocated 300 metres northeast of the current station, in the direction of Greenfield. This will allow space to provide a better travel experience through an improved, more accessible station which will include a new footbridge and lifts. As well as improved accessibility, both Mossley and Greenfield stations will see platform extensions, giving the space for longer services to use the station, which would allow more seats for customers.

The public consultation will also present further details on the installation of OLE on the iconic Uppermill Viaduct, also known as Saddleworth Viaduct.

TRU is a major, multi-billion-pound programme of improvements that will transform journeys across the North, better-connecting towns and cities through more frequent, faster, greener trains between Manchester, Leeds and York, running on a better, cleaner and more reliable railway.

Following the consultation process, TRU will consider all the feedback received from the local community and other stakeholders. A Transport and Works Act Order application will then be submitted to the Secretary of State in Summer 2025.

 

[edwin_m]

Press release

Linky linky?

 

[WesternBiker]

Linky linky?

I think this is it: https://www.networkrailmediacentre....nch-stalybridge-to-diggle-public-consultation

 

[snowball]

Sorry, have edited the link in now.

 

[edwin_m]

I think this is it: https://www.networkrailmediacentre....nch-stalybridge-to-diggle-public-consultation

Sorry, have edited the link in now.

Thanky linky both.

Fairly drastic operation at Greenfield I think. I thought if they tried to make it accessible the obvious solution would be a bridge at the Diggle end, but that just looks to be bypassing a pretty dangerous footway across the bridge. Passengers using the Down platform will end up with quite a long walk.

 

[Meerkat]

I like the claim that they are making Moseley more accessible…by moving it 300 yards further downhill along an A road away from most locals.
At Greenfield is that some kind of entrance at road level below the footbridge? I do hope they will connect the new pavement bridge to the pavement at the top rather than chucking pedestrians into the road on the inside of a corner! Is it separate to ease the replacement of the road bridge which will be very tricky in a constrained sloping site, and very disruptive to traffic!

Ps Is the 3 car class 8xx (with two pantographs!) serving Greenfield a budget cut express or a super stopper!

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I like the claim that they are making Moseley more accessible…by moving it 300 yards further downhill along an A road away from most locals.
At Greenfield is that some kind of entrance at road level below the footbridge? I do hope they will connect the new pavement bridge to the pavement at the top rather than chucking pedestrians into the road on the inside of a corner! Is it separate to ease the replacement of the road bridge which will be very tricky in a constrained sloping site, and very disruptive to traffic!

Ps Is the 3 car class 8xx (with two pantographs!) serving Greenfield a budget cut express or a super stopper!

Moving it to Moseley (which was an area in Birmingham the last time I checked) certainly wouldn't make it more accessible to people living in Mossley!

 

[Legolash2o]

How much piling work is going on between Leeds and Micklefield please?

I read that there's some between Garforth and Micklefield but is there any between Garforth and Leeds?

 

[edwin_m]

I like the claim that they are making Moseley more accessible…by moving it 300 yards further downhill along an A road away from most locals.
At Greenfield is that some kind of entrance at road level below the footbridge? I do hope they will connect the new pavement bridge to the pavement at the top rather than chucking pedestrians into the road on the inside of a corner! Is it separate to ease the replacement of the road bridge which will be very tricky in a constrained sloping site, and very disruptive to traffic!

Ps Is the 3 car class 8xx (with two pantographs!) serving Greenfield a budget cut express or a super stopper!

The new Mossley station will actually be at a higher elevation, given the prevailing gradient of the railway.

Looks to me like Greenfield keeps its existing building with the entrance at the nearer end on that picture. Not visible from the angle of the view, but the footway is only narrow to non-existent over the railway bridge and it continues at a somewhat more adequate width towards Grasscroft on the railway side of the road, where there is also a bus stop. However, there doesn't look to be a proper footway from the near end of the bridge past the disabled parking to the station entrance!

 

[Meerkat]

The new Mossley station will actually be at a higher elevation, given the prevailing gradient of the railway.

Looks to me like Greenfield keeps its existing building with the entrance at the nearer end on that picture. Not visible from the angle of the view, but the footway is only narrow to non-existent over the railway bridge and it continues at a somewhat more adequate width towards Grasscroft on the railway side of the road, where there is also a bus stop. However, there doesn't look to be a proper footway from the near end of the bridge past the disabled parking to the station entrance!

Mossley needs an entrance from the roads to the west to make access better.
Greenfield does seem to be keeping the current building and entrance, but it does look like there is a new arch/tunnel into the wall/embankment under the footbridge area (could well be iffy artwork)
I can only assume that they couldn’t tie the new road bridge in legally on the east side if it had a legal width pavement so had to build the new unpaid footbridge. I hope it’s just a artist’s error that it doesn’t actually meet the pavement at the west end!
I compared the artwork to Streetview re the pavement in front of the station building. Unless they are building a new thicker embankment supporting wall I don’t see why the pavement all the way along that side would be narrower so I reckon its another inaccurate bit of artwork.

 

[CAF397]

The rendition of Mossley doesn't appear to reflect the station will be on quite a curve, plus with a steep embankment on the Down side.

 

[snowball]

How much piling work is going on between Leeds and Micklefield please?

I read that there's some between Garforth and Micklefield but is there any between Garforth and Leeds?

Some seems to be happening according to the monthly updates linked on this page:

Lineside Neighbour Information - Leeds to Thorpe Park

thetrupgrade.co.uk

 

[Grumpy]

Some seems to be happening according to the monthly updates linked on this page:

https://thetrupgrade.co.uk/leeds-thorpe

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[Legolash2o]

Some seems to be happening according to the monthly updates linked on this page:

Lineside Neighbour Information - Leeds to Thorpe Park

thetrupgrade.co.uk

Thank you!

 

[Halish Railway]

How much piling work is going on between Leeds and Micklefield please?

I read that there's some between Garforth and Micklefield but is there any between Garforth and Leeds?

To give a VERY rough estimate having taken a ride from Leeds to Micklefield and back today, I’d say it’s about half-done between Garforth and Micklefield. I didn’t notice any between Garforth and Leeds.

 

[matacaster]

Photo of what little is left of the wooden listed cafe / toilet building on island platform at Huddersfield station. It will be re-erected in due course at a slightly different position following planned platform modifications.

 

[43095john]

Meanwhile the Wires between Colton Jn & Church Fenton see their first test tonight. Unit on its way down from Heaton as I type (Imagine it's a TPE 802)

Several runs tonight York - York, some turning at Church Fenton & some turning at Micklefield

First path here:

Realtime Trains | 3Q02 2245 York Loop (Holgate) to York Loop (Holgate) | 09/09/2024

Real-time train running information for 3Q02 2245 departure from York Loop (Holgate) to York Loop (Holgate) on 09/09/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[WAO]

Does this mean a reversal on diesel? (I thought the wiring limit was the North Jn)

WAO

 

[Halish Railway]

Does this mean a reversal on diesel? (I thought the wiring limit was the North Jn)

WAO

I’d imagine that the automatic power changeover system would be undergoing tested at the same time to enable a reversal under diesel at Church Fenton.

 

[43095john]

802212 is the unit involved in tonight's testing

 

[59CosG95]

It is still worth mentioning that, while the traction power is switched on, the wiring in the Colton Jn area is not yet complete. The changeover from "crossed-contacts" to "tangential" wiring between the ECML wires (on the DM & UM) and the Normanton Lines' wires (on the DN & UN) has not yet taken place, although most/all of the main steelwork & small part steelwork is in position.

 

[InOban]

Does that mean that trains could now run on electric from Church Fenton to York on the Leeds lines, just not on the Normanton lines?

 

[GingerSte]

It is still worth mentioning that, while the traction power is switched on, the wiring in the Colton Jn area is not yet complete. The changeover from "crossed-contacts" to "tangential" wiring between the ECML wires (on the DM & UM) and the Normanton Lines' wires (on the DN & UN) has not yet taken place, although most/all of the main steelwork & small part steelwork is in position.

Could you (or someone else) explain what the difference is, please?

I don't know huge amounts about OLE, but like to learn these things.

Thank you!

 

[swt_passenger]

Could you (or someone else) explain what the difference is, please?

I don't know huge amounts about OLE, but like to learn these things.

Thank you!

I think the best way of getting your head around this is to refer to section 12.5 of Garry Keenor’s electrification guide, it’s quite a detailed subject. At a track junction or crossover there has to be a corresponding layout for the contact wire. As the wires come close together the difference is that the tangential contact wire does not come into contact with the main run. I was a bit confused at first, because the way he explains it initially, tangential wiring was replaced by the cross contact method which was better at higher speeds. But then you have to read on and you find that cross contact has then been replaced by “high speed tangential”.

The pdf can be found here: http://ocs4rail.com/

 

[Tge1435]

BAM appointed to deliver the next phase of the Transpennine Route Upgrade

BAM has been appointed to deliver the next phase of the Transpennine Route Upgrade West project, securing £800m of work as part of the £2bn TRUWest Alliance contract award.

ukandireland.bam.com

 

[nr758123]

Mossley needs an entrance from the roads to the west to make access better.

There's a big height difference which makes this impracticable.

 

[GRALISTAIR]

BAM appointed to deliver the next phase of the Transpennine Route Upgrade

BAM has been appointed to deliver the next phase of the Transpennine Route Upgrade West project, securing £800m of work as part of the £2bn TRUWest Alliance contract award.

ukandireland.bam.com

This is really good news and as far as I can see is basically W3 and W4 sections of the route.

 

[Meerkat]

There's a big height difference which makes this impracticable.

The passengers have to manage that height difference one way or another!
So make it more direct, with the expensive option being a bridge projecting out connected to extended lifts.

 

[59CosG95]

This is really good news and as far as I can see is basically W3 and W4 sections of the route.

IIRC the "six stations" are likely to be Deighton, Mirfield, Ravensthorpe, Dewsbury, Batley and (possibly) Cottingley.
Huddersfield and Morley are of course already underway, and White Rose is outwith the TRU scope.