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Things in living memory which seem very anachronistic now

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Clearly not fax machines

When I was a driver for Northern (East Region) and its predecessors (1991-2012), I have no recollection of having ever been communicated with by fax machine either at home or at work. This sounds to me very much like a typical anti-railway urban myth....unless of course it's one of the archaic practices still perpetrated on the Western side of the company.
 

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When I was a driver for Northern (East Region) and its predecessors (1991-2012), I have no recollection of having ever been communicated with by fax machine either at home or at work. This sounds to me very much like a typical anti-railway urban myth....unless of course it's one of the archaic practices still perpetrated on the Western side of the company.
I wouldn't expect personal communications by fax, but I could well believe a depot (or remote signing on point) receiving late notices such as emergency speed restrictions by fax and the system not having been replaced. The benefit of a fax, as long as it hasn't run out of paper, is that the messages wait to be picked up if no-one is around and are relatively permanent.
 

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They are very good quality, you would think they had been actually been hand signed.
Absolutely, yes - and they've been doing them for at least 20+ years now because my Gran had one in 2004 ( she very nearly lasted long enough to get a second one in 2009 as well... )
 

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Absolutely, yes - and they've been doing them for at least 20+ years now because my Gran had one in 2004 ( she very nearly lasted long enough to get a second one in 2009 as well... )
Had a relative who had one in 2000, not as fancy as they are today - but excellent print quality.
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Some companies still do telegrams but it's via the post, a bit like BT did. Think the hand-delivered telegrams by the post office ended mid 70's.
 

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The attention which was once paid to superstitions. My gran used to comment if someone dropped a knife that a male visitor would soon be calling - or a female visitor in the case of a dropped fork. Also as a child there tended to be a feeling that cracks on the pavement should not be stood upon or bad luck would occur.
 

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Ceremonies which were at one time often held in churches have become fairly rare within a church context (baptisms, weddings and funerals).
 

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Ceremonies which were at one time often held in churches have become fairly rare within a church context (baptisms, weddings and funerals).
Really? All funerals I've been to have been either in a church or the Crematorium chapel. And a baptism surely has to be a religious event by definition.
 
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Yes some superstition variants did indeed have a rhyming element. "Step on a crack - break your mum's back."
I thought it brought the threat of being eaten by a bear (so very likely in urban Britain in the twentieth century!).
 

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Yes some superstition variants did indeed have a rhyming element. "Step on a crack - break your mum's back."

If you step on a nick, you'll marry a brick and a beetle will come to your wedding.
 

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Sure but with the steep and continuing decline of church attendance it has become fairly rare for children to be baptised.
There's no link between the two anymore. Baptism no longer requires either the child or their parents to be religious or church goers. A committed atheist who has never set foot in a church before can now be baptised. Whilst church attendance itself is declining, baptism rates are stable due to the upper-middle class and the Instagrammers getting their kids or themselves baptised due to it being a cool and wacky thing to do. It's slowly transitioning from being a religious ceremony to instead becoming something that is done to increase Insta likes or to mark a passage in growing up (plus it generates revenue for the church). Same thing with weddings. When I was a kid you had to worship at the church in order to get married there - now anyone can get married at a church. Another way of churches generating money given that church attendance is declining.
 

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There's no link between the two anymore. Baptism no longer requires either the child or their parents to be religious or church goers. A committed atheist who has never set foot in a church before can now be baptised. Whilst church attendance itself is declining, baptism rates are stable due to the upper-middle class and the Instagrammers getting their kids or themselves baptised due to it being a cool and wacky thing to do. It's slowly transitioning from being a religious ceremony to instead becoming something that is done to increase Insta likes or to mark a passage in growing up (plus it generates revenue for the church).
I'd had the impression that for many decades back from now, infant baptism (chiefly C of E) had been -- principally, maybe, among the "middle classes and above" -- for very many, "the done thing", but with effectively no serious-religious-belief-and-living content. A thing which has always sat badly with me personally -- feeling that it's hypocritical, and devaluing-and-demeaning all round: if those concerned are not serious Christians, let them not mess around, play-acting vis-a-vis this stuff -- if taken literally, signing the poor kid up to a potentially harsh and burdensome regime of living, to which it might well come not to want to be subjected. (Instagrammers finding the thing cool and wacky, is a new one on me -- but one feels that there's no limit to the bonkers stuff which humans can come up with.)

By the way, my non-believing parents -- most of a lifetime ago -- chose not to have me and my siblings christened; of which I am, for me, glad. I recall reading a good many years back, in someone's memoir: of -- on the way to a christening ceremony -- the memoirist's expressing to his companion, thoughts about the matter which were broadly in line with mine, above. The companion -- a politician of a rather smug and pompous stamp -- responded loftily, re the christening thing being about social bonding and "the grammar of living" (awful, condescending expression); with, I felt, the unspoken implication that the memoirist must be naive and / or some kind of head-in-the-clouds hippie outlier from society, for airing the views that he did. If I had been the memoirist, I fear that I would have greatly wanted to punch the toplofty git on the nose...
 

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My daughter and son-in-law had a "naming day" for each of their daughters. which took pace at the Registrar's Office in Basingstoke. As I'm anonymous on here I can say that I thought it slightly odd - not a baptism, which their non-religious views didn't want, so why did they feel the need for a substitute?
 

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My daughter and son-in-law had a "naming day" for each of their daughters. which took pace at the Registrar's Office in Basingstoke. As I'm anonymous on here I can say that I thought it slightly odd - not a baptism, which their non-religious views didn't want, so why did they feel the need for a substitute?
My three grandchildren have all had “naming ceremonies” rather than a religious baptism as heir parents aren’t religious.

As for why they felt the need for a substitute service….. I don’t know that either….
 

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My three grandchildren have all had “naming ceremonies” rather than a religious baptism as heir parents aren’t religious.

As for why they felt the need for a substitute service….. I don’t know that either….
The one thing that is observed in both religious and non-religious naming ceremonies is the booze-up afterwards.
 

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The one thing that is observed in both religious and non-religious naming ceremonies is the booze-up afterwards.
And many modern day worship leaders tend to be more ready to acknowledge the prevalence of wine in the Bible than their predecessors.
 

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My three grandchildren have all had “naming ceremonies” rather than a religious baptism as heir parents aren’t religious.

As for why they felt the need for a substitute service….. I don’t know that either….
My impression is that many (possibly all) societies have celebrations for births, deaths and whatever the equivalent is of marriage.
 

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Indulging in rather twee family games such as "Consequences" or "Charades". Using the word "twee" itself could be regarded as being anachronistic.
 

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