codenamecuebal
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When you pass through a ticket gate at the end of your journey is the ticket cut up by the machine, carefully incinerated by it or just slung into a bag inside it?
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What happens to tickets once they get swallowed?
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I seem to recall they're kept in a hopper, so all in a big stack that gets emptied periodically. Not sure what happens to them once they're removed from the barrier.
A certain number are retained in the top of the gate so you can get to any that are retained in error more easily...assuming the passenger gets to you in time. Then they drop into a "bin" inside the pillar.
Once the bin reaches a certain fill level, a warning gets displayed on the gate controller to remind the staff to empty it. At our place, that's into a rubbish bag.
Cheers,
Barry
Once the bin reaches a certain fill level, a warning gets displayed on the gate controller to remind the staff to empty it. At our place, that's into a rubbish bag.
Cheers,
Barry
Only the older style gates do this. The new (plastic) ones made by Cubic just dump all the tickets straight into the bin.
Cherry_Picker
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A number of them (cant remember exactly, but a dozen or so) are gripped immediately behind the slot where they are inserted, this allows barrier staff to find a ticket easily if a passenger needs one back for any reason. They then fall into a hopper, and when the hopper is full the tickets are disposed of. I'd hope they get recycled, but it probably varies between every station.
If you want to see inside one just ask the barrier staff for your ticket back. Tell them you need to claim it back as travel expenses or something.
If you want to see inside one just ask the barrier staff for your ticket back. Tell them you need to claim it back as travel expenses or something.
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I certainly hope they are a bit more reliable in what tickets they decide to eat then! (as I have had a few tickets incorrectly eaten by older barriers).
causton
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I've seen the wheelie bins outside Hatfield station that are full of clear bags with tickets (all separate to other waste) and presume therefore that it is recycled - or certainly intended to be.. who knows what happens when the bins are emptied!
Hatfield now has recycling bins for customers too. I suppose one day we'll see them on trains too - and I bet trains in mainland Europe and elsewhere already do.
I think even the newest gates have a small area to retain tickets before they're dumped into a bin - not sure how many. 10 perhaps?
Hatfield now has recycling bins for customers too. I suppose one day we'll see them on trains too - and I bet trains in mainland Europe and elsewhere already do.
I think even the newest gates have a small area to retain tickets before they're dumped into a bin - not sure how many. 10 perhaps?
codenamecuebal
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Do you think they would let me have a few hundred used tickets?
If we did have them the wurzels probably wouldn't use them anyway for whatever reason. I don't think I've ever seen public recycling bins (eg. those in shopping centres), except for those that are empty, with correct rubbish in them. There is always something recyclable in the general waste bin, or something not recyclable in the recycling bin.
I ended up having a go at someone at work a few months ago who put an empty milk bottle into the bin, despite there being a half empty recycling bin right next to it. The bin was full so he even went to the effort of squashing down its contents so he could fit it in! There really is no excuse but some people just don't give a damn.
I ended up having a go at someone at work a few months ago who put an empty milk bottle into the bin, despite there being a half empty recycling bin right next to it. The bin was full so he even went to the effort of squashing down its contents so he could fit it in! There really is no excuse but some people just don't give a damn.
Bit unfair to single out four old blokes who play 'Scumpy & Western' music as not doing their bit for recycling!
Sweden was into recycling a long time ago, but my wife (who is Swedish) once worked in McDonalds and admitted that they mixed all the rubbish up anyway. The idea was to simply spread the load a bit in the bins.
Maybe the company recycles properly now, but I don't know - it's only as good as the people who use them (both customers AND staff). But, that's why I mentioned that it may not make any difference once the rubbish is collected either!
As for wanting a few hundred used tickets.. I could have taken (which would have been theft, but I doubt anyone would have noticed) an entire sack of tickets.. which probably had thousands of used tickets. If you really want some, go to Hatfield after around 8pm and grab some. And if you're caught, you're on your own!
Maybe the company recycles properly now, but I don't know - it's only as good as the people who use them (both customers AND staff). But, that's why I mentioned that it may not make any difference once the rubbish is collected either!
As for wanting a few hundred used tickets.. I could have taken (which would have been theft, but I doubt anyone would have noticed) an entire sack of tickets.. which probably had thousands of used tickets. If you really want some, go to Hatfield after around 8pm and grab some. And if you're caught, you're on your own!
Peter Mugridge
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The TOCs are missing a trick here; BR used to pass the best of the collected tickets on to Collectors' Corner...
Never know, in 50 years time they'll probably turn up on the 2061 equivalent of eBay and sell for a fortune.
codenamecuebal
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We're talking Glasgow Queen Street. Lots and lots of returns from Edinburgh.
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Given the possibility for fraudulent use, I'd say probably no.
codenamecuebal
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Thats a good point.
causton
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Who wants to volunteer for checking the dates of the tickets in this stack of 300 used tickets?
...Nobody?
codenamecuebal
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Who wants to volunteer for checking the dates of the tickets in this stack of 300 used tickets?
...Nobody?
Keep the bag from a gate back a few days?
Peter Mugridge
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You'd still need to check them because of the one month validity on the return half of anything other than a day ticket...
As I said, you can get tickets at the end of the day at Hatfield and no doubt other stations too. It isn't hard to grab a bag, but it would be theft - if you could imagine anyone being noticed and hanging around for BTP or local police to turn up.
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