swinny1990
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Any pictures?
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CrossCountry XC Class 170 refurbishment
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Jacob Porrett
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Not allowed to take any unfortunately.
tfw756rider
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Possibly!
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Fair point.
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That would make sense
Bletchleyite
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If they've gone for a thinner than usual cushion the legroom may be OK, here's hoping...
tfw756rider
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Jacob, do they look like seats that are the same (in terms of the basic design, not the trim / any extra features) as those fitted to any other classes of train? And can you tell us anything else about the interior?
Bletchleyite
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Jacob, do they look like seats that are the same (in terms of the basic design, not the trim / any extra features) as those fitted to any other classes of train? And can you tell us anything else about the interior?
Unless they've changed the spec since what they published, the seats are the FISA LEAN which is used on all UK FLIRTs and the Class 196.
tfw756rider
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Ah thanks - I thought they might have been those, as they're the same make/model specified for the East Midlands Railway 170 refurbishment (which I understand to be related to the CrossCountry one).
Jacob Porrett
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The cab drivers seats have been changed. The overall appearance looks to be good. I haven't been inside and probably won't to be honest as it's not my kettle of fish.Jacob, do they look like seats that are the same (in terms of the basic design, not the trim / any extra features) as those fitted to any other classes of train? And can you tell us anything else about the interior?
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The seat backs are thinner in comparison to the old seats.
Bletchleyite
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While I normally call the LEAN a thick backed seat, I guess the Lazzerinis (?) were very thick so this sounds like it may still be an improvement.
Jacob Porrett
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I can confirm that the seats are definitely skinny compared to what they are now on the non refurb 170s because I had another look today.
I quite like the look of 170101 now. It's looking smart. The number has been added now on the front ends.
I quite like the look of 170101 now. It's looking smart. The number has been added now on the front ends.
swinny1990
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Hopefully not to much longer before it's back in service
Jacob Porrett
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It looks smart now inside and out having seen it at work myself.
CR165022
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The X being white instead makes the cream doors make less sense!
norbitonflyer
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Time was when the passengers had more comfortable seats than the drivers did.
m79900
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looks better than the drawings. They made it look pinker than reality.
Rather agree, doing a Northern and putting them in the same silver as the body side or white like the large X would have worked better. The cream colour looks like a random splurge on the colour palate.
1E67
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Can you confirm this?
185143
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Just seen 170112 passing Wolverhampton heading North. Assume this is the next one?
crunchello
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Are the voyagers going to be refurbished using a similar colour scheme?
Nope. That will be completely different.
Pete_uk
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Looks bright.
Living deep in gWr land, I like bright trains.
Living deep in gWr land, I like bright trains.
jfowkes
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Kudos to XC for putting large, visible-from-a-distance, visible-at-speed signage on the doors for cycles and wheelchairs. The previous livery had tiny grey decals that were basically impossible to see unless you were next to the door and the train was stationary.
reecestrains
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Looks good! Although I've noticed the PIS still looks original on the outside. Isn't that supposed to be getting changed or something?
Looks good, and more red than pink.
Echo thoughts that white doors would work better than cream doors.
Quite smart, a bit like Greater Anglia livery in parts
MCR247
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Has the bike space been moved to be behind one of the cabs then?
Yes. Mixed used wheelchair/bike space is now verboten. It's behind the 79 car cab on the drivers side.
Jacob Porrett
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Yes
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Yeah because I've seen the seats at work .
I get the Bike space, but it seems a bit odd to move the wheelchair space away from the large toilet, unless they’ve created two areas for wheelchairs and the like?
1E67
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Thanks. Just had visual confirmation, re-covered originals rather than new seats.