TfW withdrawals (170/175 all gone, now just class 15x to go)

[Bikeman78]

Does anyone know which 150’s are due to be withdrawn after 229 and 240 go? Thanks

All Anglia ones this year, 235, 255, 231, 257, 213 and 217 in that order.

 

[BillStampy]

150242 has also returned and is in the hybrid formation. Believe it ran Landore - Port Talbot return today on test. I've seen a few images around of it at Landore. Still hasn't had the unit numbers on it just yet!

 

[Western 52]

RTT says 158823 on 1B54 1745 Cardiff Central to Milford Haven this evening, 37 late starting. 158s are quite rare in west Wales now.

 

[50002Superb]

150242 has also returned and is in the hybrid formation. Believe it ran Landore - Port Talbot return today on test. I've seen a few images around of it at Landore. Still hasn't had the unit numbers on it just yet!

This is very exciting!!

 

[The_Train]

150242 has also returned and is in the hybrid formation. Believe it ran Landore - Port Talbot return today on test. I've seen a few images around of it at Landore. Still hasn't had the unit numbers on it just yet!

Oooo this is good news - means I can get back down there to nab the final 2 I need that are still working!

 

[chrisjo]

Where have the "Talerddig pair" ended up, or are they still at Machynlleth ?

As of midday today, 158824 is still at Mach. 158841 is not there.

 

[Lurcheroo]

As of midday today, 158824 is still at Mach. 158841 is not there.

It is. It’s just hidden.

 

[chrisjo]

It is. It’s just hidden.

Must be very well hidden? I thought I could see right through the old shed past the far end of 824, and it's not in the new one?

 

[Lurcheroo]

Must be very well hidden? I thought I could see right through the old shed past the far end of 824, and it's not in the new one?

Very well indeed. That’s exactly where it is. Once it’s in there they close the door though so you won’t be able to see it from the outside.

 

[animationmilo]

Do we know what the situation is with the 153s in Landore

 

[The_Train]

150242 has also returned and is in the hybrid formation. Believe it ran Landore - Port Talbot return today on test. I've seen a few images around of it at Landore. Still hasn't had the unit numbers on it just yet!

Any further developments with 242?

 

[sd0733]

Do we know what the situation is with the 153s in Landore

As far as I'm aware the ones that are there (except 972 which is being converted to Active Travel spec) are all stood down awaiting officially being stored and off-leased.

 

[animationmilo]

As far as I'm aware the ones that are there (except 972 which is being converted to Active Travel spec) are all stood down awaiting officially being stored and off-leased.

And would I be correct in at some point
913, 320, 323, 325, 333, 361, 367, 369 to follow
with TFW only retaining
303, 312, 318, 327, 353, 362, 382, 507, 528, 531, 552, 568, 572
Or have things changed again are they going to keep more than 13

 

[Cambrian359]

The Welsh 158s will be available at some point.

That is, at a minimum, over 2 years from now.

Quoted From the class 175 to GWR thread as I thought it would be more appropriate to reply here.
Has there been an update on the release of 158s? We’ve had end of last year to end of this year and now 2 years….(and this is ignoring the early 2023 timeline given back in 2018) Has any new issues arisen or is this down to 197 reliability/availability or other expected fleet issues?

 

[sd0733]

And would I be correct in at some point
913, 320, 323, 325, 333, 361, 367, 369 to follow
with TFW only retaining
303, 312, 318, 327, 353, 362, 382, 507, 528, 531, 552, 568, 572
Or have things changed again are they going to keep more than 13

That looks to be correct. From the May Timetable there's still 13 diagrams so a few will have to stay on past there. From then mostly heart of Wales with 2 pairs on Bridgend to Rhymney and 1 pair on Crewe- Shrewsbury locals inter working off Heart of Wales, nothing up or down the Marches

 

[BillStampy]

Any further developments with 242?

Realtime Trains | 3Z30 1000 Landore T.M.D. to Cardiff Canton Sidings | 12/03/2025

Real-time train running information for 3Z30 1000 departure from Landore T.M.D. to Cardiff Canton Sidings on 12/03/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Don't take my word for it but there is this path in for Landore - Canton tomorrow, could potentially be 150242.

 

[The_Train]

Realtime Trains | 3Z30 1000 Landore T.M.D. to Cardiff Canton Sidings | 12/03/2025

Real-time train running information for 3Z30 1000 departure from Landore T.M.D. to Cardiff Canton Sidings on 12/03/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Don't take my word for it but there is this path in for Landore - Canton tomorrow, could potentially be 150242.

Thanks Bill. I will keep an eye on this tomorrow - a move to Canton could be another step towards a return to service. Would be ideal if it could return within the next 2 weeks

 

[BillStampy]

Thanks Bill. I will keep an eye on this tomorrow - a move to Canton could be another step towards a return to service. Would be ideal if it could return within the next 2 weeks

Hoping that it is 150242, fingers crossed!
It shouldn't take that long to add numbers to the unit, I don't know what else would run back to Canton!

 

[Cardiff123]

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[Jez]

Quoted From the class 175 to GWR thread as I thought it would be more appropriate to reply here.
Has there been an update on the release of 158s? We’ve had end of last year to end of this year and now 2 years….(and this is ignoring the early 2023 timeline given back in 2018) Has any new issues arisen or is this down to 197 reliability/availability or other expected fleet issues?

The 158s wont be able to leave until the switch over on the Cambrian happens. Whether this happens overnight with a switch between 158 and 197 or whether it will be gradual im not sure.

I believe its supposed to be by the end of this year that all 158s should be able to leave TFW but whether that timescale is still correct ive no idea. Has train crew training even started yet for staff who sign the Cambrian? Its very much how long is a piece of string!

That looks to be correct. From the May Timetable there's still 13 diagrams so a few will have to stay on past there. From then mostly heart of Wales with 2 pairs on Bridgend to Rhymney and 1 pair on Crewe- Shrewsbury locals inter working off Heart of Wales, nothing up or down the Marches

So no work on Ebbw Vale either for 153s from the May TT.

Currently there seems to be a Swanline that is also booked for a pair of 153s. The one that leaves Neath for Cardiff around 0845. If it isnt officially booked for a pair of 153s it has been every time ive checked RTT or seen it like i did this morning!

 

[Lurcheroo]

ea. Has train crew training even started yet for staff who sign the Cambrian?

It has not.

 

[animationmilo]

Looking at the timetable looks like they need a set of 153s at Carmarthen for heart of wales for 0447 Carmarthen to Shrewsbury from May

 

[Jez]

Looking at the timetable looks like they need a set of 153s at Carmarthen for heart of wales for 0447 Carmarthen to Shrewsbury from May

I think the plan is to stop them coming ECS from Canton eventually so it could be linked to that.

 

[sd0733]

Currently there seems to be a Swanline that is also booked for a pair of 153s. The one that leaves Neath for Cardiff around 0845. If it isnt officially booked for a pair of 153s it has been every time ive checked RTT or seen it like i did this morning!

missed that one, there's still a diagram for Swanline including that 0830ish off Swansea, it runs ecs from Canton then back on that one then another Swanline before heading to Fishguard and back to Carmarthen.

Looking at the timetable looks like they need a set of 153s at Carmarthen for heart of wales for 0447 Carmarthen to Shrewsbury from May

Yes there will, formed off the Fishguard the previous evening.

 

[berneyarms]

Looking at the timetable looks like they need a set of 153s at Carmarthen for heart of wales for 0447 Carmarthen to Shrewsbury from May

That service currently operates on Mondays only, but resumes Tuesday to Friday operation from 1st April actually - it hasn’t been running from Carmarthen due to overnight line works.

 

[animationmilo]

missed that one, there's still a diagram for Swanline including that 0830ish off Swansea, it runs ecs from Canton then back on that one then another Swanline before heading to Fishguard and back to Carmarthen.


Yes there will, formed off the Fishguard the previous evening.

Thank you so 15 needed in May

 

[sd0733]

Thank you so 15 needed in May

No still 13 diagrams just hadn't noticed that one was different.

I should add there's still time for these to change or be amended to short term plans

 

[berneyarms]

Thank you so 15 needed in May

No - it’s the first train which currently starts at Swansea due to overnight engineering works.

It’s starting from Carmarthen again from 1st April as I posted above.

 

[Jez]

missed that one, there's still a diagram for Swanline including that 0830ish off Swansea, it runs ecs from Canton then back on that one then another Swanline before heading to Fishguard and back to Carmarthen.

Thank you. I had a feeling this one was booked a pair of 153s as it seems to be too often for it to be a substitution!

 

[AdamWW]

Thank you. I had a feeling this one was booked a pair of 153s as it seems to be too often for it to be a substitution!

Don't know about that.

The City/Coryton line ran for quite a long period with daily disruption warnings about trains being a single carriage, which suggests that although almost invariably run by a single 153 they were at least on some level diagrammed for something else.