Tribunals can take time , and the outcome is still subject of uncertainty . And of course even if the trubunal rules in favour of the staff member it doesn't always order reinstatement , even if it does the employer can just ignore said order and pay more damages .
Not quite , it is the unions elected executive committee that decides when to call a ballot. Officials work to the instructions of the executive committee and general secretary .
Do Hull Trains have any RMT drivers? The only place I’ve heard of RMT drivers is on London Underground (I believe only 4% of drivers throughout the industry are RMT members)!
I’ve seen a driver wearing an RMT pin badge before but I could be mistaken (it may have been left over from a previous position)
It’s very rare for any RMT drivers on the National Rail network. ASLEF have stated that they have 100% membership at Hull Trains.
You answered it yourself, you don’t know of it was justified or not. So very few facts are known so it’s difficult to say if a strike is justified or not.
Here is the letter from aslef
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Ah right. Must have been an old badge
Managers can't keep the service running seven days a week for eight weeks, no matter how much money you offer them.
Hull trains only runs 7 return services a day so it should be easy for them especially as most drivers do 1&1/2 services per shift, especially when you consider an early and late train have been cancelled for 8 weeks straight
That's a big commitment from the HT drivers..... clearly they have the sacked guys back
I guess it often depends on if or how much a union is able to financially support such workers during lengthy periods of industrial action.
No, apparently management can’t be apart of unions like that. I’m not sure why but that’s what I’ve heard.
Is this specific to Hull Trains? Managers are sometimes RMT or ASLEF if they were previously traincrew or other frontline roles. Otherwise, they’re normally TSSA or not unionised.
Yes, but more importantly, they’re excluded from governmental subsidy and therefore strike action actually hits their profit margins (iirc)
Every employee has the right to join a union, even if upper management don't like it.
I believe so, or at least it’s something along those lines (it was an unofficial agreement between management and drivers due to their being so few drivers at hull trains, all the management voting against something could be enough to flip it if enough normal drivers haven’t voted/voted against action)
That's perfectly true and the same goes for remaining in a union or joining a different union to the previous one. However presumably these rights need to be weighed up alongside the "culture" existing within the company for individuals (such as driver managers employed by First Hull Trains to keep this "on topic") to determine whether belonging to a union or not belonging to a union will serve their interests better. It doesn't sound as if the unionised drivers have much (any?) bargaining power in this fairly unusual situation.
Certainly not.
I've no idea what the circumstances of the Hull Trains dispute are. Hypothetically it's perfectly possible to envisage a situation where an employee's attitude is a bit of a thorn in the flesh of his/her superiors but who is popular with his/her peers and a chance is seized to bin the individual for a specific misdemeanour which is a borderline dismissible offence generating hostility from the peers who argue that the action taken against their chum was way too harsh.
