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that complainant (the alpaca farmer) also was in the news opposing National Grid proposals in the area. Seems like a regular suspect and a press favourite
A big +1 from me. What on earth is it going to take? God forbid a death. Trees do not belong close to railway lines.
Well done NR!
Remind the complainers of the Autumn leaves delays and the accident at Salisbury Tunnel Junction in 2021.
WAO
I await to hear them complaining that the current in the nasty electric wires is hurting their alpacas in due course.that complainant (the alpaca farmer) also was in the news opposing National Grid proposals in the area. Seems like a regular suspect and a press favourite
For the layman, does this allow NR to replace old head spans with new head spans rather than portals or twin track cantilevers?Incidentally the DfT has granted NR an exemption from the ENE NTSN[3] for modified Mk3b OLE on the MML; a necessity as full compliance would be required otherwise, achievable only with wholesale replacement at potentially treble the agreed level of funding. That said, "there are plans to achieve full [ENE NTSN] compliance gradually through planned future interventions", which I presume means as and when renewals are due within the usual schedule of asset maintenance. Decision letter is attached.
[1] Engineering Access Statement
[2] Enhancement Delivery Plan
[3] Energy National Technical Specification Notice
I believe it's the station clearance rules, which had been tested by BR to be safe at much lower levels, then ORR decided to remove allowances and move to full TSI clearance, which required massive modification to EGIP. However they seem to be taking a slightly more pragmatic approach now.For the layman, does this allow NR to replace old head spans with new head spans rather than portals or twin track cantilevers?
i.e. no requirement to deliver mechanically independent registration?
Absolutely, one of those professional NIMBYsthat complainant (the alpaca farmer) also was in the news opposing National Grid proposals in the area. Seems like a regular suspect and a press favourite
Meanwhile, when I was growing up 50 odd years ago in the Reading area most of the nearby farmland seemed to have a few pylons crossing it, and the farmers managed just fine...I believe it's the station clearance rules, which had been tested by BR to be safe at much lower levels, then ORR decided to remove allowances and move to full TSI clearance, which required massive modification to EGIP. However they seem to be taking a slightly more pragmatic approach now.
Absolutely, one of those professional NIMBYs
From https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/n...tricity-pylons-across-the-countryside-4767060
"Sarah Mcrow, 55, from Brackenfield fears she could lose both her home and the business she has built up from scratch, if plans to build new 50m tall pylons across rural Derbyshire go ahead.
While reading a letter she received from National Grid, Sarah described the moment of “dawning horror” seeing the planned route for the new pylons entirely covering her farmland."
I absolutely support removing lineside trees, they don’t belong there for a whole host of reasons. However, doing it smack bang in the middle of the nesting bird season is quite sad. They could have programmed it a little better.
Whenever trees are removed from the railway at this time of year, they are fully surveyed to check for nesting birds.
Not necessarily. If completely new structures are installed, then they'll likely be mechanically independent.For the layman, does this allow NR to replace old head spans with new head spans rather than portals or twin track cantilevers?
i.e. no requirement to deliver mechanically independent registration?
Back to the proposed wiring - pegs have started to appear NORTH OF DERBY.
It does seem like Sheet Stores to Derby and now even Derby -> north are getting ahead of Trent - Nottingham?North of Derby, there's also been vegetation management
What actually does the work south of Bedford consist of? I assumed it was re-tensioning span-wires and contact/catenary wires to be at a higher tension for higher speeds. But did they also replace a few headspans with portals?Not necessarily. If completely new structures are installed, then they'll likely be mechanically independent.
The exemption was more to say "we're fine if you renew the existing headspans and improve the cantilevers", rather than going for wholesale replacement. If it was wholesale replacement, we'd doubtless see the MML south of Bedford looking exactly like the MML north of Bedford.
I'm fairly sure Headspan to Portal conversion is part of it. I also understand from other posts on here that some of the triangular cantilevers need to be replaced with ones that have a wider angle to help handle the greater forces invovled with higher speeds. No idea on the tensioning.What actually does the work south of Bedford consist of? I assumed it was re-tensioning span-wires and contact/catenary wires to be at a higher tension for higher speeds. But did they also replace a few headspans with portals?
could be value adding:I await to hear them complaining that the current in the nasty electric wires is hurting their alpacas in due course.
This is why it's important to explain this to those living nearby who will not have the knowledge that those on these forums do. Without this I think it's quite natural that people will complain if this happens 'out of the blue'A big +1 from me. What on earth is it going to take? God forbid a death. Trees do not belong close to railway lines.
In fairness the following has been published in multiple places:It does seem like Sheet Stores to Derby and now even Derby -> north are getting ahead of Trent - Nottingham?
I also noticed that railway access point and compound locations have gradually appeared on Google Maps.
There are several between Long Eaton and Derby visible, but none that I've seen between Trent and Nottingham, which again supports the idea that there is more on site activity towards Derby vs towards Nottingham.
What actually does the work south of Bedford consist of? I assumed it was re-tensioning span-wires and contact/catenary wires to be at a higher tension for higher speeds. But did they also replace a few headspans with portals?
I think if we have a firm commitment to electrifying the rest of the MML then this project could progress much quicker (on a per mile basis) than TRU.TRUP seems to be going a little quicker honestly, lots of masts sprouting in multiple different locations
I guess you mean "Beighton" not "Brighton"I think if we have a firm commitment to electrifying the rest of the MML then this project could progress much quicker (on a per mile basis) than TRU.
For one this is mainly an electrification project and lacks the amount of civil engineering works that TRU has and secondly it should be much easier to shut sections of the route for extended periods of time to condense work into a shorter timescale given the provision of diversionary routes (Erewash and Brighton lines in particular) and ease of running rail replacement buses (East Midlands Parkway would come in handy should the Nottingham branch be shut for an extended period).
That's a rather big diversion!I think if we have a firm commitment to electrifying the rest of the MML then this project could progress much quicker (on a per mile basis) than TRU.
For one this is mainly an electrification project and lacks the amount of civil engineering works that TRU has and secondly it should be much easier to shut sections of the route for extended periods of time to condense work into a shorter timescale given the provision of diversionary routes (Erewash and Brighton lines in particular) and ease of running rail replacement buses (East Midlands Parkway would come in handy should the Nottingham branch be shut for an extended period).
Yes, I’ve amended my post now. Silly autocorrectI guess you mean "Beighton" not "Brighton"![]()
Network Rail's procurement framework, when advertised in October 2023, envisaged £880m spend. Adding up the single track km of electrification from Wigston northwards (304km). One divided by the other suggests an estimate of £2.9m per STK, which seems about right. So it does seem like the intention was/is to do the whole lot in 5 duration of the framework. This seems like a quite significant acceleration from the Kettering to Harborough works, which I think took 3 years from the first works through to energisation (for 74 STK)For one this is mainly an electrification project and lacks the amount of civil engineering works that TRU has and secondly it should be much easier to shut sections of the route for extended periods of time to condense work into a shorter timescale given the provision of diversionary routes (Erewash and Beighton lines in particular) and ease of running rail replacement buses (East Midlands Parkway would come in handy should the Nottingham branch be shut for an extended period).
Which is to be expected, if you can keep the original delivery team largely intact (both NR and contractor(s)) and share experiences and knowledge through the entire delivery base.Network Rail's procurement framework, when advertised in October 2023, envisaged £880m spend. Adding up the single track km of electrification from Wigston northwards (304km). One divided by the other suggests an estimate of £2.9m per STK, which seems about right. So it does seem like the intention was/is to do the whole lot in 5 duration of the framework. This seems like a quite significant acceleration from the Kettering to Harborough works, which I think took 3 years from the first works through to energisation (for 74 STK)
indeed, the positive effects of a rolling programme. There's still bound to be a significant amount of downtime ahead even if the spending review doesn't randomly lob off a few bits of MMLe. For RS3, construction ended over a year ago - so I wonder how they can keep those teams joined up when there's not much to do and hasn't been for some time.Which is to be expected, if you can keep the original delivery team largely intact (both NR and contractor(s)) and share experiences and knowledge through the entire delivery base.
I came across this recent cabride video today, including a run on the MML slow lines from West Hampstead to Bedford. It's not so easy to see but I think you can spot new registration arms on the fast lines and shiny new headspans. But I'm no expert!Some of these are part of OLE125, which itself is part of the wider South of Bedford (Electrification) Enhancements and Renewals scheme (SoB(E)ER for short, depending on when you're on the job)
What actually does the work south of Bedford consist of? I assumed it was re-tensioning span-wires and contact/catenary wires to be at a higher tension for higher speeds. But did they also replace a few headspans with portals?
I'm fairly sure Headspan to Portal conversion is part of it. I also understand from other posts on here that some of the triangular cantilevers need to be replaced with ones that have a wider angle to help handle the greater forces invovled with higher speeds. No idea on the tensioning.
Arguably the design team is the most important to be kept together, and given the pegs being reported by other posters, it looks like that isn't leaving long fallow periods.indeed, the positive effects of a rolling programme. There's still bound to be a significant amount of downtime ahead even if the spending review doesn't randomly lob off a few bits of MMLe. For RS3, construction ended over a year ago - so I wonder how they can keep those teams joined up when there's not much to do and hasn't been for some time.