Borismaster Serious Accident

BestWestern · 4 Jun 2014

Looks as though we might have the first terminal damage victim amongst the Borismater fleet. The Evening Standard is reporting a serious chead on collision at around 2am this morning between the bus and a car in Clapton. One man in the car us reported to have died, and the damage looks rather severe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27692120

One dead after car and night bus collide in east London

A man has died and 13 people have been injured, one critically, in a collision between a car and a bus in east London.

The route N38 bus and the car crashed on Lea Bridge Road, at its junction with Essex Wharf, in Clapton at about 02:20 BST, the Met Police said.

The dead man and the critically injured man were travelling in the car.

Two other men, who were in the back of the car, are in a serious but stable condition. All four are believed to be in their mid-20s.

Ambulance crews treated 10 other people who were passengers on the N38 night bus which was travelling towards Whipps Cross. The crash took place close to the Lee Valley Ice Centre.

A number of the bus passengers were taken to hospital by another bus, but were described by police as walking wounded.....

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gordonthemoron · 4 Jun 2014

TBF, the car looks in a much worse state

DaveHarries · 4 Jun 2014

BestWestern said:
Looks as though we might have the first terminal damage victim amongst the Borismater fleet. The Evening Standard is reporting a serious chead on collision at around 2am this morning between the bus and a car in Clapton. One man in the car us reported to have died, and the damage looks rather severe.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27692120

Standard has other photos: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...njured-in-clapton-smash-with-car-9481901.html

I don't think the damage to the Borismaster is terminal. Sympathies to the family of the deceased though.

Dave

BestWestern · 4 Jun 2014

gordonthemoron:1811875 said:
TBF, the car looks in a much worse state

Well, yes!

It will have been butchered in order to allow the occupants to be released of course, so the roof is gone completely. Looks to be some penetrating damage to o/s of the bus, so a return to service will hinge on whether anything has been permanently bent or twisted under there presumably. Not sure whether these things are built to the 'unbolt and replace' principle, being integral (I presume?).

Mr Manager · 4 Jun 2014

LT176 if anyone is interested.

nottinghamcity · 4 Jun 2014

Interesting that the standard endulged in quite a bit of finger pointing here. I think their analysis is likely, but they don't seem to have referenced any real evidence. I tend to agree the damage to the bus may well be reperable.

Electrostar · 4 Jun 2014

The Evening Standard tends not to reference the type of bus when an accident incident involves the Boris Bus. Compare this to the coverage of bendy buses. Every engine fire was reported while standard double deckers that suffer the same fate rarely warranted a mention.

PowerLee · 4 Jun 2014

I doubt the bus is a write off, look's pretty repairable.

Borismaster looks like it's been well designed to protect the driver.

BritishRail83 · 4 Jun 2014

Repairable! shame new bus, East London is full of supped up racing cars my road is full of road humps because of cars doing 60+ and hand brake turns.

edwin_m · 5 Jun 2014

nottinghamcity said:
Interesting that the standard endulged in quite a bit of finger pointing here. I think their analysis is likely, but they don't seem to have referenced any real evidence. I tend to agree the damage to the bus may well be reperable.

The Standard certainly seemed very clear that the deceased driver was suspected of racing, and a speed of 110mph was mentioned today along with police wishing to trace another car that was just ahead. Don't Boris buses have forward facing CCTV?

Tetchytyke · 6 Jun 2014

Electrostar said:
The Evening Standard tends not to reference the type of bus when an accident incident involves the Boris Bus

I think they do: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...s-pileup-on-first-day-of-service-8834134.html

The Standard last night named the driver, and again made it clear he'd been racing. And then we had all the usual claptrap about him being a "doting father". My heart bleeds. We should just be grateful he only killed himself, rather than innocent bystanders.

I was impressed by how well the bus stood up to the crash.

Clip · 6 Jun 2014

DaveHarries said:
Sympathies to the family of the deceased though.

Dave

May I be the second person on this thread to also offer my sympathies rather than discuss whether the bus is fixable or not.

Tibbs · 6 Jun 2014

Clip said:
May I be the second person on this thread to also offer my sympathies rather than discuss whether the bus is fixable or not.

I'm always curious - what do you think offering sympathies on here will achieve, aside from bringing attention to yourself?

Are you saying that everyone who doesn't post such a message is either indifferent or glad that this has happened?

Why don't you work on the premise that everyone is sad that it happened, and that they hope the best for all involved as that's the standard human reaction. Thay way you can climb off your moral high horse and wander around with the rest of us.

walec · 6 Jun 2014

My first post overall, so maybe not a good first impression of myself, but then who cares

I am not particularly sad there is one less idiot on the road. I am sad he destroyed a bus, I am sad he made a few chaps in his car and some more absolutely innocent on the bus affected and hurt.
A good thing is he gave some work to the police, doctors, accident cleaning team, and many others, so that way he actually propelled the economy of this country.

I love when things continue to work as described by Charles Darwin.

How about a head-mast like this:

"Stupid racing teenager destroys London property and harms bus passengers and his colleagues. Luckily he will not do this any more."

Do you think there would be a paper capable of printing such thing or they all lost their balls and feed us with their politically correct cr*p.

I promise to behave next time and maybe stick to a more rail-related topic; tracks, signals or platforms are not that controversial (unless in France, where they grow to wide...)

Mikey C · 6 Jun 2014

Buses are very strong when compared to cars, with a massively strong chassis against which a car stands little chance. I've seen the results of crashes between cars and buses, and while the bus was structurally fine, the car was a crumped mess

Clip · 6 Jun 2014

Tibbs said:
I'm always curious - what do you think offering sympathies on here will achieve, aside from bringing attention to yourself?

Are you saying that everyone who doesn't post such a message is either indifferent or glad that this has happened?

Why don't you work on the premise that everyone is sad that it happened, and that they hope the best for all involved as that's the standard human reaction. Thay way you can climb off your moral high horse and wander around with the rest of us.

There is no moral high horse here thanks, in fact our lass says I have none.

My post, whilst one of sympathy for the person who died, was more of a reflection of people on this forum who will gush their pain when others who work on the railway and are involved in terrible incidents along with those who died, yet would rather try and slight the boris buses and paid no respects to the person who did die, especially the fact that the bus driver will still have to live with it too.

To me, there is no difference and each should be given the same respect rather than gloss over it by wondering if a bus is repairable or not.

bb21 · 6 Jun 2014

Clip said:
yet would rather try and slight the boris buses and paid no respects to the person who did die,

I don't think that is the case at all. Surely this is all down to interpretation.

ste898 · 6 Jun 2014

Arctic Troll said:
I think they do: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...s-pileup-on-first-day-of-service-8834134.html

The Standard last night named the driver, and again made it clear he'd been racing. And then we had all the usual claptrap about him being a "doting father". My heart bleeds. We should just be grateful he only killed himself, rather than innocent bystanders.

I was impressed by how well the bus stood up to the crash.

Thankgod someone says how it really is

FACT the car driver was racing so thankgod he only took himself and not innocent people on the bus

It a sign of britain these days that people are not safe to travel at night

as for sympathy for the car driver I certainly have none

Tetchytyke · 7 Jun 2014

Clip said:
paid no respects to the person who did die, especially the fact that the bus driver will still have to live with it too.

Idiot kills himself by being idiot.

I'm sorry for his family, I'm very sorry for that bus driver. But lets not pretend that this is some sort of terrible tragedy.

I'm sad that some idiot chose to waste his life in a pathetic ego-trip. But I'm glad that he only took his own life, rather than mowing down pedestrians as usually happens. I'd rather he'd have been doing a steady 30mph on his side of the road but, hey, his willy-waving meant that he wasn't.

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