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Sheffield / Marple / New Mills Central / Rose Hill Marple are some of the destinations.
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Plus Chester (via Altrincham), and I think they can turn up on Liverpool via Warrington Central services
 
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Tony Candland said:
Looking up i cant see any pathed
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If you're using publically available train times websites then that's not surprising: The rolling stock information they convey are (fairly general) timing loads, not necessarily what type of train is booked to operate a certain service.
 
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sprinterguy said:
If you're using publically available train times websites then that's not surprising: The rolling stock information they convey are (fairly general) timing loads, not necessarily what type of train is booked to operate a certain service.
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I use the realtraintimes website
 
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Tony Candland said:
I use the realtraintimes website
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This purely says what the timing load (i.e. the basis of the calculations for acceleration, deceleration and top speed) is. For many services where 100% accuracy isn't critical, this will be a generic timing load that bears no relation to the actual stock running the service.
 
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ForTheLoveOf said:
This purely says what the timing load (i.e. the basis of the calculations for acceleration, deceleration and top speed) is. For many services where 100% accuracy isn't critical, this will be a generic timing load that bears no relation to the actual stock running the service.
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Ah ok so its a matter of seeing if it turns up as a Pacer ?
 
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Yeah, just timing loads then.

Anecdotally the Manchester Piccadilly to Rose Hill Marple or Hazel Grove services are often pairs of 142s, although they also share those duties with 150s. I've also caught a 142 on a Preston service from Piccadilly, but that's something that's likely to be a thing of the past soon as class 319s are introduced to the route.
 
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Tony Candland said:
Ah ok so its a matter of seeing if it turns up as a Pacer ?
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With operators that have a fleet as large and varied as Northern do, a timing load of "15x" could mean just about any of their fleet (though likely the diesel contingent of it), pretty much, yes. What gets sent out will vary from day to day depending on the availability of stock (i.e. what's being maintained and what's working).

For smaller sub-fleets, diagrams are usually more accurate, and track particular units through the services they are scheduled to operate throughout the day. But until the Pacers become rarer, it'll be a hit and miss game unfortunately... Perhaps ironically, when there are fewer of them left it's possible there might be some more stable diagrams.
 
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sprinterguy said:
Yeah, just timing loads then.

Anecdotally the Manchester Piccadilly to Rose Hill Marple or Hazel Grove services are often pairs of 142s, although they also share those duties with 150s. I've also caught a 142 on a Preston service from Piccadilly, but that's something that's likely to be a thing of the past soon as class 319s are introduced to the route.
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I'm off there on Thursday so i'll hopefully catch a few
 
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ForTheLoveOf said:
With operators that have a fleet as large and varied as Northern do, a timing load of "15x" could mean just about any of their fleet (though likely the diesel contingent of it), pretty much, yes. What gets sent out will vary from day to day depending on the availability of stock (i.e. what's being maintained and what's working).

For smaller sub-fleets, diagrams are usually more accurate, and track particular units through the services they are scheduled to operate throughout the day. But until the Pacers become rarer, it'll be a hit and miss game unfortunately... Perhaps ironically, when there are fewer of them left it's possible there might be some more stable diagrams.
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Thanks for the valuable info , i'm hoping to ride a few before they are taken off altogether, last time i did was 20 years ago so its a nostalgia thing plus i wish to film photograph a few
 
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Tony Candland said:
Thanks for the valuable info , i'm hoping to ride a few before they are taken off altogether, last time i did was 20 years ago so its a nostalgia thing plus i wish to film photograph a few
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If you get yourself a walk-up ticket or a ranger/rover of some description, you would be very unlucky not to bag yourself at least a couple if you go around the Manchester area.
 
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You can also find them paired up with other units too just to make the trip to blackpool more interesting :D
 
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Tony Candland said:
I'm off there on Thursday so i'll hopefully catch a few
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To obtain the full Pacer experience it's best to wait until it's raining so you can enjoy the raindrops running inside the window and down your leg, certainly if you are over 6ft in height and your having to sit with your knees splayed and hard up against the side of the carriage. :smile:
 
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gnolife said:
Plus Chester (via Altrincham), and I think they can turn up on Liverpool via Warrington Central services
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You still get a lot of Pacers on the Liverpool - Warrington Central - Manchester Oxford Road service.

Sometimes you get them on the Liverpool - Manchester Airport service which calls at Piccadilly and Oxford Road. The 16.16 from Lime Street to Man Airport on 20/02/19 was a Pacer. Imagine you've got a Transatlantic flight from Manchester Airport but you start off your journey on a Pacer from Liverpool. :rolleyes:
 
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P.S. the Liverpool stoppers via Warrington Central all use the bay platform 5 at Manchester Oxford Road, so if you enter the station through the ticket office and look over to the right you will be able to see straight away if your chariot will be a Pacer, 150 or 156! :lol:
 
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Or go to ardwick station in manchester, you'll see everything on there.
The rose hills,marples,newton heath and longsight movements and the airport/stockport bound trains.
 
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jonesy3001 said:
Or go to ardwick station in manchester, you'll see everything on there.
The rose hills,marples,newton heath and longsight movements and the airport/stockport bound trains.
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You're a bit stuffed if you actually want to travel on them though
 
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