70014IronDuke
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My impression from looking at RTT of late is that timekeeping on these lines has deteriorated in the past month, most particularly affecting the morning commuter trains into Leeds.
2H81, the 05.51 off Carlisle has repeatedly lost 5 - 10 minutes after Settle, regains a minute or so at Skipton, but tends to end up 8 - 15 late into Leeds, presumaly down to lost path?
today it was 7 down into Leeds.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y62084/2019-10-30/detailed
The late running then appears to hold up 2H54, the 06.48 Lancaster - Leeds, which should follow about 10 mins behind the Carlisle train. But its delays get magnified after Skipton. It was 18 down into Leeds today, and a whopping 27 yesterday.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y60376/2019-10-29/detailed
In addition, the morning down commuter into Carlisle has also been losing time of late, typically 5-10 mins, and most of this is after Kirkby Stephen.
I get the impresssion other services on these lines are also performing more poorly, but it seems not consistently - some trains just seem to keep time.
During the day, Lancaster - Leeds seems to be worse than the S&C. Trains seem to be frequently, if randomly, 10-15 late into their destinations, with the Lancaster - Morecambe run subject to not infrequent cancellation (if the train is scheduled to continue).
Obviously there are probably a package of reasons, but the question I'd like to pose to locals on the ground is, why? I suspect some could be leaf fall, but notice quite a few extended station stops towards the end of these runs, eg a 30 second timing becomes 1 or 1 1/2 mins, ditto a 1 min schedule becoming 2 or 2 1/2. These, of course, all add up. Is this because of increasing passenger usage causing longer dwell times? And why in the past month? Perhaps people are more reluctant to drive or cycle some trips (say, Gargrave - Skipton) in the darker autumn weather, and switch to train?
2H81, the 05.51 off Carlisle has repeatedly lost 5 - 10 minutes after Settle, regains a minute or so at Skipton, but tends to end up 8 - 15 late into Leeds, presumaly down to lost path?
today it was 7 down into Leeds.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y62084/2019-10-30/detailed
The late running then appears to hold up 2H54, the 06.48 Lancaster - Leeds, which should follow about 10 mins behind the Carlisle train. But its delays get magnified after Skipton. It was 18 down into Leeds today, and a whopping 27 yesterday.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Y60376/2019-10-29/detailed
In addition, the morning down commuter into Carlisle has also been losing time of late, typically 5-10 mins, and most of this is after Kirkby Stephen.
I get the impresssion other services on these lines are also performing more poorly, but it seems not consistently - some trains just seem to keep time.
During the day, Lancaster - Leeds seems to be worse than the S&C. Trains seem to be frequently, if randomly, 10-15 late into their destinations, with the Lancaster - Morecambe run subject to not infrequent cancellation (if the train is scheduled to continue).
Obviously there are probably a package of reasons, but the question I'd like to pose to locals on the ground is, why? I suspect some could be leaf fall, but notice quite a few extended station stops towards the end of these runs, eg a 30 second timing becomes 1 or 1 1/2 mins, ditto a 1 min schedule becoming 2 or 2 1/2. These, of course, all add up. Is this because of increasing passenger usage causing longer dwell times? And why in the past month? Perhaps people are more reluctant to drive or cycle some trips (say, Gargrave - Skipton) in the darker autumn weather, and switch to train?
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