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When were train drivers banned from smoking in the cab?

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Dai Corner

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I have seen security chase people away from the entrance, but then as soon as security go, others come out and smoke at the entrance. Perhaps a very large fine as a penalty might deter more?

I'd suggest offering smokers outside hospitals nicotine gum or lozenges.
 
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I remember before the Pendolinos were introduced and VT announced they were to be smoke free. The unions kicked up a fuss and they put an ashtray in the drivers cab.
Let's say there was no smoking ban, surely it's an unnecessary hazard for the driver to smoke anyway.
 

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Try convincing my lungs and nasal passages, it isn't Assault. Yes, it might sound melodramatic, but I judge on the spirit of the Law, not the letter. With all the widespread knowledge of the damage caused by smoking to people's health, anyone that smokes close to a stranger clearly has no regard for that person, so in my mind is quite likely to commit premeditated violence in other circumstances. Its noticable that there used to be a pattern with unprovoked attacks (including murder) late at night, that the media would report that the attacker approached the victim and asked for "a light".

Just to clarify recordable and non recordable concerns the recording of the offend*er*, not he offence. ie. It isn't used to suggest that "minor" offences don't actually exist.

It’s still not assault.
 

Harbornite

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End of the day, if you smokers want to kill yourselves, that’s fine, fill your boots.

Just do it away from the rest of us who don’t want to put up with how bad you stink, and yes, you do stink. You’re no different to someone with bad B.O. or walking past a freshly laid dog turd.

Wibble. Would much rather smell of cig smoke than Turds or BO.

Some people...
 

Czesziafan

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I never thought there was any justification in banning drivers from smoking in the. This anti-smoking lark has got completely out of proportion. I can remember from my spotting days during my teens chatting with guards and other railwaymen on trains and at station platforms who would offer you a cigarette - a kindness I never refused, and I would later offer one back.
 

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No its not assault. Neither is it a Public Order Act offence. There is no such thing as "the spirit of the law" either - a thing is either legal or illegal.

On second thought, I better stop soon before I randomly lamp someone outside a pub as that’s what’ll happen, apparently!
 

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I never thought there was any justification in banning drivers from smoking in the. This anti-smoking lark has got completely out of proportion. I can remember from my spotting days during my teens chatting with guards and other railwaymen on trains and at station platforms who would offer you a cigarette - a kindness I never refused, and I would later offer one back.

Well said that man - some of the practices you describe still occur on the fringes of the network away from prying eyes ie Crianlarich.
 
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