Train Describer Messages

rower40 · 23 Nov 2019

Not sure if it's already been answered above (10 pages is a lot to read through)...
"KRS" is "Key Route Strategy". In times of bad weather (too hot, too cold, too much snow, wrong kind of fog), certain loops are placed "out-of-bounds". It's better to send a freight train main-line, and delay the passenger services behind it, than to put it into a loop and risk the points failing. When the KRS is in place, everything stays "main-line", and the points can stay set "normal" (i.e. straight-on), so much less likely to get snow stuck in them (when too cold) or the rails buckling (when too hot).

Edit to add:
And "TCF-" is usually Track Circuit Failure. Not sure what is used to denote an Axle Counter Failure.

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tpjm · 23 Nov 2019

I cannot believe that this one didn’t get spotted last Xmas at Leeds!

AlexNL · 23 Nov 2019

Those are brilliant

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43055 · 10 Dec 2019

Swan Lake is now just a fish pond

trainmania100 · 10 Dec 2019

DNKY for donky on derby map

ainsworth74 · 10 Dec 2019

I assume things like this have always happened but I wonder if some of the signalling fraternity are now playing up a little bit for the audience that now exists for such message since the advent of open data? :lol:

Southern Dvr · 10 Dec 2019

More likely it’s less so now there’s so much open data. I gather ‘The Men in Suits’ don’t like this sort of thing.

ainsworth74 · 10 Dec 2019

Southern Dvr said:
More likely it’s less so now there’s so much open data. I gather ‘The Men in Suits’ don’t like this sort of thing.

Oh, well I wish I could say I was surprised :'(

frediculous · 17 Dec 2019

ATOB showing at Platform 1 of Victoria this morning. I don't know what that means.

Edit: now changed to *S**

Bigfoot · 17 Dec 2019

frediculous said:
ATOB showing at Platform 1 of Victoria this morning. I don't know what that means.

Edit: now changed to *S**

It doesn't have to mean anything to the rest of the world just the signallers involved, the sooner that is understood the better.

Sunset route · 17 Dec 2019

Bigfoot said:
It doesn't have to mean anything to the rest of the world just the signallers involved, the sooner that is understood the better.

I would say 99% of my colleagues at my location input reminders into the TD berths without an inkling that the greater world is watching them and trying to decipher their personal reminders. We know that control watch us as they sometimes don’t like what we input into the berths and calls are made to SSMs, as to can we input something a little more pleasing to their sensitive eyes instead.

Bald Rick · 17 Dec 2019

Southern Dvr said:
More likely it’s less so now there’s so much open data. I gather ‘The Men in Suits’ don’t like this sort of thing.

Some do. Some are women too.

Raul_Duke · 17 Dec 2019

Bald Rick said:
Some do. Some are women too.

They also don’t tend to wear suits anymore. Makes them much harder to identify in person.

Bring back BR issue bowlers I say!

Controller1701 · 17 Dec 2019

frediculous said:
ATOB showing at Platform 1 of Victoria this morning. I don't know what that means.

Edit: now changed to *S**

A train going from a siding in 'A' section at Grosvenor shed to a siding in 'B' section at Grosvenor shed

Paul

Southern Dvr · 17 Dec 2019

Bald Rick said:
Some do. Some are women too.

The ‘women in suits’ tend to have a better sense of humour than the men in my experience!

frediculous · 17 Dec 2019

Bigfoot said:
It doesn't have to mean anything to the rest of the world just the signallers involved, the sooner that is understood the better.

Except, as shown below, it does mean something. It's more of a curiosity thing ("I wonder what that means, perhaps someone knows") rather than a "I must know exactly what this means". 11 pages suggest other people are also curious.

Controller1701 said:
A train going from a siding in 'A' section at Grosvenor shed to a siding in 'B' section at Grosvenor shed

Thank you, that's interesting to know.

daveshah · 18 Dec 2019

"Broken rail" across 3 TDs around Sway tonight

theironroad · 18 Dec 2019

daveshah said:
"Broken rail" across 3 TDs around Sway tonight
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Lol, probably should have done it left to right though......

aleggatta · 18 Dec 2019

theironroad said:
Lol, probably should have done it left to right though......

What's to say it isn't left to right, on the signallers workstation, where he is working

SteveyBee131 · 18 Dec 2019

theironroad said:
Lol, probably should have done it left to right though......

It probably is/was in the signal box/signalling centre. How apps/web pages show the data isn't always the same as on the signalling panel.

theironroad · 18 Dec 2019

aleggatta said:
What's to say it isn't left to right, on the signallers workstation, where he is working

SteveyBee131 said:
It probably is/was in the signal box/signalling centre. How apps/web pages show the data isn't always the same as on the signalling panel.

Granted, probably both correct.

Bigfoot · 19 Dec 2019

theironroad said:
Lol, probably should have done it left to right though......

Another reason for there to be no need for the public to understand the notes that signallers leave for themselves.

aliceh · 19 Dec 2019

There's flooding on the Eastleigh-Fareham line today, this one made me laugh

theironroad · 19 Dec 2019

Bigfoot said:
Another reason for there to be no need for the public to understand the notes that signallers leave for themselves.

...and I'm sure some signallers think they'll try write something that other people understand too and if it's humourous to boot.

Nobody is claiming that every the message has to be understood by the public.

jon0844 · 19 Dec 2019

aleggatta said:
What's to say it isn't left to right, on the signallers workstation, where he is working

Indeed.

Signalmaps.co.uk shows the ECML in reverse to that of OpenTrainTimes.

Bigfoot · 19 Dec 2019

theironroad said:
Nobody is claiming that every the message has to be understood by the public.

My point exactly! Yet:

theironroad said:
probably should have done it left to right though.....

I rest my case.

4COR · 25 Dec 2019

Fairly self explanatory this one

Spartacus · 25 Dec 2019

Southern Dvr said:
The ‘women in suits’ tend to have a better sense of humour than the men in my experience!

Opposite in mine, but either way generally most don’t have an opinion on it, apart from ones which might not pass the watershed test, broken down trains being FCKD for example.

LAX54 · 25 Dec 2019

tpjm said:
I cannot believe that this one didn’t get spotted last Xmas at Leeds!
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Just going to spend the last 30 mins of my shift, filling all the TD berths up !

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