Xenophon PCDGS
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Are there any statistics available in the public domain that give the average of the income tax paid by 16 year old workers?
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Are there any statistics available in the public domain that give the average of the income tax paid by 16 year old workers?
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Pyreneenguy
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Perhaps this will signal your "rebirth" !
I've been "an expat" for so long that I no longer think in English ! French is my everyday language ( for work), I even dream in French. If it wasn't for my inane contributions to a number of forums I probably wouldn't be writing in English at all !
For many years I corresponded with people all over the globe, long hand-written letters that were always a joy to write and to receive. Sadly, the days of writing letters in this manner are behind us, save perhaps for bereavements. Receiving e-mails and texts just isn't the same.
edwin_m
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Last time someone tried linking representation to taxation there were riots on the streets and the PM who suggested it was kicked out soon after.
Perhaps we shouldn't recruit 16-year-olds into the forces either.
Xenophon PCDGS
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This is a most unusual response to a question that asked what was the average income tax paid by 16 year old workers, that in itself being asked in response to a statement that made such a claim.
edwin_m
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I was merely suggesting that our democracy doesn't restrict voting rights to taxpayers, so how much 16-year-olds earn or pay in tax doesn't seem to be very relevant to whether they should have the vote. After all many pensioners don't pay tax, and nobody's suggesting denying them the vote...
Of course 16 year olds are tax payers unless they never buy anything that attracts VAT...
R G NOW.
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I put labour, I will appreciate the free broadband, as my bills would come down to 18 pounds from 52.
bussnapperwm
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I worry for my country if the Tories get in. You watch, within the next 5 years, those on the poverty line will be driven further down, workers rights will get eroded, we will have a financial crash and our NHS will get more in the hands of the 1%.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Was it not the case that it was 16 year olds paying income tax which was the point raised in an earlier posting on the thread?
Xenophon PCDGS
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GRALISTAIR
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And I worry if Jezza gets in
Xenophon PCDGS
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Have you had sight of the edited printers draft 2020 edition of "Old Moores Almanac" or are you just a distant relation of Nostrodamus and thus gifted with the same hereditary ability of seeing into the future?
Xenophon PCDGS
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Noting their support for "Leave" at the referendum that was held, have the RMT yet issued one of their now-famous press releases (the Gospel according to Cash), suitably couched in terms so well loved by their top brass, that will give their considered opinion on which political party should be voted for in this General Election?
Erm, why? You don't live in the UK.
SteveP29
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And is that why they doctored the audience response to the question to him on trust, editing out the audience laughter?
furnessvale
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Only if they work for the money in their pockets. Otherwise it is their parents or the state paying any tax.
Geezertronic
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On one hand, we have some saying that a 15-16 year old that went to Syria was groomed and taken advantage of because of their age, then on the other hand we have some (often the same people I would suggest) saying that we should stop and listen to a 15-16 year old as an authority on climate change. Which is it? People can't have it both ways.
If you want to lower the voting age, then you can also lower the age at which a person can be named in court from 18 to 16.
If you want to lower the voting age, then you can also lower the age at which a person can be named in court from 18 to 16.
SteveP29
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1. It'll be less than £100 a year extra tax for somebody on £80K
2. He isn't, he races motorbikes and apparently his family owns Knockhill racing circuit in Scotland
bussnapperwm
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Or maybe I live in a area where we have a Tory metro mayor whose obsessed with playing Trams, a Tory council which introduced schemes such as two hours free parking, and now wants to build a new leisure centre reducing parking provision in one of the main town centres and a Tory MP who is a staunch Brexiteer and voted for reducing central government funding of local government alongside replacing Trident with a new system and against giving an increase on benefits to those who are unable to work because they are disabled.
Now you see why I fear for Britain if the Tories remain in power.
Xenophon PCDGS
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In the "big city" of Manchester not so many miles away to the north of our residence, but fortunate for us who live in the different county of Cheshire East, they have a Labour metro mayor who is obsessed with playing trains, a Labour council and a number of Labour MPs with socialist axes to grind.
Now you see why I fear for Britain if the Corbyn/Momentum alliance achieve power.
bussnapperwm
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So you'd rather have a bunch of Tories with their tax dodging fat cat supporters in power. Giving tax breaks to the rich and stifling the poor. Fat cats running our national utilities and selling our national health service to Trump.
I don't.
GRALISTAIR
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Always my plan to return there when I retire. Also I still care about my country even if I don’t live there. Many people disparage Donald Trump but don’t live in the USA - I don’t see any difference.
GRALISTAIR
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Well stated
Xenophon PCDGS
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What is the name given to the socialist opposite of "fat cats" ? What party was favoured by Robert Maxwell?
"Stifling the poor" sounds just like what might have been the title of one of those hilarious "Monty Python" sketches. I am surprised that you have not used part of their "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch in your posting above.
To be honest, of all the cats that we have come across, I suppose the best example I have seen of a fat cat was a lioness many years ago in a nature documentary who had over-gorged herself and certainly had an extended stomach....
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NoMorePacers
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I assume you’re not a fan of the NHS then.What is the name given to the socialist opposite of "fat cats" ? What party was favoured by Robert Maxwell?
"Stifling the poor" sounds just like what might have been the title of one of those hilarious "Monty Python" sketches. I am surprised that you have not used part of their "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch in your posting above.
To be honest, of all the cats that we have come across, I suppose the best example I have seen of a fat cat was a lioness many years ago in a nature documentary who had over-gorged herself and certainly had an extended stomach....
DarloRich
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don't be scared to express what you believe and don't think there isn't any value to that opinion. None of us have a clue really. We are all making it up as we go along.
Exactly! old enough to be tried for murder. Not old enough to vote. Old enough to join the army but not old enough to vote! Looking at some people in the real world I wonder if there should be an intelligence test to qualify you for voting rather than an age limit!
DarloRich
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I live in the UK and worry about Corbyn! I think he is a crackpot with some "fruity" views. but hey, free broadband ( which is nothing of the sort!)
Xenophon PCDGS
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Looking at some under 16s ages that appeared in a news item in the last 24 hours, did you see the ages of both girls and boys accused of assaulting the police during the disorder that occurred in Birmingham?
DarloRich
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Indeed - however assaulting a police officer has a very wide definition and is a useful tool used to easily and quickly arrest someone.
Xenophon PCDGS
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What is the legal definition of assault in cases of police assault? Surely when the offender is over or under 16, it is the same in law.
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