Reading between the lines here, I see people talking about what commuters want.
Surely that is a for another thread or discussion, the comfort issue is much more important for those travelling for 3-7hrs on a train rather than those standing up for 20 minutes.
It may be 25yrs plus since I regularly travelled on mK1s - but the current IETs even with a 1st class ticket are horrendous after a couple of hours, maybe
OK for fatties who have their own cushions, but bony 6'+ like me, forget it & don't even talk about the lighting or lack of catering.
Commuter designed stock is now taking over the longest journeys in the UK - and it's not an improvement.
If the rest of Europe can maintain comfort why can't we - or are we just hardened Br**i**ers
Surely that is a for another thread or discussion, the comfort issue is much more important for those travelling for 3-7hrs on a train rather than those standing up for 20 minutes.
It may be 25yrs plus since I regularly travelled on mK1s - but the current IETs even with a 1st class ticket are horrendous after a couple of hours, maybe
OK for fatties who have their own cushions, but bony 6'+ like me, forget it & don't even talk about the lighting or lack of catering.
Commuter designed stock is now taking over the longest journeys in the UK - and it's not an improvement.
If the rest of Europe can maintain comfort why can't we - or are we just hardened Br**i**ers