Okehampton outstation would be a good possibility if there’s space in the site. I’m not sure how big the outstation is.
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TheGrandWazoo
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Think there’s only one vehicle based there currently.
The 0533, 0620 and 0850 could all still be Bude (plus the 0707 ex Holsworthy that looks like it runs dead from Stratton to start at Red Post). Just the 6A could go and instead start from Okehampton at 0705?
I believe it recently increased to two vehicles.
Sounds perfectly feasible but I’m not sure of the timetable anymore - it’s been a long time since I looked at the 6 timetable.
TheGrandWazoo
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I had to look at it - Forget how much it’s developed!
Not looked at it for 1-2 years and can’t remember much of how it was then!
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That's probably what will happen in time, most people in Newton and Kingsteignton get the 7(formerly X64) as it's quicker. I think te 88 used to be combined with the 70/77 but that changes again about a year ago.
I think you’re right, the 88 absorbed 70/77 for a short time.
I wasn't suggesting that the Bude/ Stratton outstation would be at risk from the Cornwall tenders. I think Bude puts out 5 vehicles on the 6/6A, 2 on the 71/85, 2 on the 319 and 2 on the 128 & 219. The two on the 128 & 219 might be at risk, I assume these are Cornwall tenders, and the 319 which does the Clovelly to Budehaven school runs might also. This 319 board then appears to do the last Exeter run on the 6 so they'd have to rework that but I'm sure it's possible. You might be able to put some of this work into Okehampton or back to Barnstaple but it would involve a lot of dead mileage (or cuts). I can't believe the outstation is that expensive to run, it must make sense to carry on. And maybe Go Ahead would want to share it - plenty of room.
TheGrandWazoo
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Tend to agree with much of that. They'll lose a couple or so vehicles on the locals, and lose the 6A to/from Bude so that could start/finish in Okehampton. The other ones (85/319) are Devon CC tenders that seem to run to/from Bude possibly just as positioning or perhaps with a deminimis payment so they'll be ok.
That being so, Bude would still be an outstation of 7/8 vehicles (at least??)
The 6A from Bude is only a positioning journey for all practical purposes, starting in 'genuine' mode at Launceston. I don't know whether this is commercial or tendered or, if tendered, whether it is Cornwall or Devon. I can't see Go Cornwall running one journey from Launceston to Okehampton and back to connect into a 6 at the Cornwall taxpayers' expense!
Another one I missed - it seems pretty clear that the 372 from Bradworthy runs out of Bude (like the 71 from Holsworthy).
Here’s a thought on a different note: if all Stagecoach Gold branding is to be phased out what will happen to the GOLD Torquay-Plymouth service? Will it be given a number and operated with conventional buses? I’m aware the route used to be numbered X80 during first days.
the consultation says some journeys curtailed at Okehampton, not all of them, so that translates to a frequency decrease west of Okehampton
As well as the launch of the new national livery it appears that Stagecoach in Cheltenham are updating the livery on their 'pet' Bristol VR to the 1930s Cheltenham District livery.
https://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
https://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
TheGrandWazoo
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Doubt if anything will change for a while. Part of the issue with Gold is that many of the features (wifi, USBs) are increasingly standard anyway. The former Gold Witney to Oxford services are in fleet colours so that will probably happen. As for a service number, yeah possibly.
The Torquay to Plymouth Golds are lower spec than the brxham newton abbot MMCs
Exactly. But can’t go on with Gold numbering surely?
TheGrandWazoo
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It may well do in time but not a big issue.
That merely reflects why Gold has been quietly dropped; those features that were special in 2014 soon become standard.
why on Earth not? Color of the vehicles is immaterial. You could equally have Red route, etc
I suppose, could be similar to Red/Green P&R in Exeter.
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In regards to the 2020 SW consulation, I've suggested merging the 77 and 88a together to create a cross town service in Newton Abbot, with some journeys going to Kingsteignton to provide a link to the railway station which actually unless you walk it is impossible to get to buy public transport without having to change buses.
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I happened to actually use the X3 on that day, SF53BYZ (18007)was one of the tridents out in service. Looking very tired internally. Also had a very tidy gold decker on the return (17:35 off Greyfriars Road) but can't recall the reg.
Not sure what the status with the E400's is at the moment, Saturday was the first time I have seen one in use (Although a handful have come past my house out of service). Today seems to be back to E300's, with even a gold solo making an appearance this morning. I would not be surprised if they were at least given some form of route branding before being allocated to the X3 full time.
iantherev
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Nigel Winter (Cymru MD) has tweeted that the X3/4 vehicles are going into the new yellow livery so the vehicles could well get a repaint before fully entering service.
DaveHarries
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Aren't the X4 ones part of the Traws Cymru group of routes (X4 / T4)? If so wouldn't they have to stay in those colours?
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The X4 is a Stagecoach service with Stagecoach liveried vehicles, the T4 has the Traws vehicles. They have a common timetable between Cardiff and Merthyr.
ValleyLines142
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15965 is on the 1625 X3 from Cardiff.
DaveHarries
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The VOSA Bus Service registrations for 11-Feb-2020 include the cancellation, by Stagecoach West, of Service 62 between Dursley, Berkeley and Bristol effective 05-Apr-2020. A bit of a surprise to me as some journeys seemed to have quite a few passengers. I wonder if anything will replace it?
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