Petrol and diesel prices - how much have you been paying?

madannie77 · 4 Jun 2022

I passed two filling stations (Esso and BP) in Penrith yesterday with both petrol and diesel at 184.9. All other filling stations I saw yesterday had petrol about 8-10p cheaper than diesel which has been the case for some time in my part of the country (northern Cumbria).

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ABB125 · 4 Jun 2022

I saw 194.9 for petrol and 191.9 for diesel in Birmingham yesterday. I think it was BP. Extortionate!

birchesgreen · 5 Jun 2022

Paid 176.9 for unleaded yesterday, at a Shell.

Mcr Warrior · 5 Jun 2022

Mcr Warrior said:
Asda in South West Manchester area charging 171.9 pence per litre for petrol and 181.9 pence per litre for diesel today. And that's one of the cheaper filling stations in the area!

That was last Wednesday. It's now nudged up to 172.7 pence and 182.7 pence respectively.

madannie77 said:
I passed two filling stations (Esso and BP) in Penrith yesterday with both petrol and diesel at 184.9. All other filling stations I saw yesterday had petrol about 8-10p cheaper than diesel which has been the case for some time in my part of the country (northern Cumbria).

Back in the day, Esso petrol was quite competitively priced in the Greater Manchestershire area. However, this seems no longer to be the case, the change possibly coinciding with the acquisition of multiple Esso sites by the EG Group, owned by brothers Mohsin and Zuber Issa, who have since gone on to buy Asda from Walmart.

ABB125 said:
I saw 194.9 for petrol and 191.9 for diesel in Birmingham yesterday. I think it was BP. Extortionate!

BP does seem to be amongst the priciest outlet in my local area. Wonder whether BP petrol/diesel is in any way superior to that sold by the supermarkets, or whether it's marketing and all essentially the same stuff.

madannie77 · 5 Jun 2022

One of the two filling stations I mentioned yesterday morning (BP) is today offering unleaded at 189.9 and diesel at 187.9! The other is now 187.9 for both.

Curiously there are two filling stations less than a mile away with unleaded at 175.9. I can't recall ever seeing such a difference in such a small distance before.

Meole · 5 Jun 2022

The annual effect of the american driving season should push prices over £ 2, at what point will customer demand significantly drop off in the UK ? to date consumers seem to grumble but accept the increases.

py_megapixel · 5 Jun 2022

Meole said:
to date consumers seem to grumble but accept the increases.

Well, what else are they supposed to do?

trebor79 · 5 Jun 2022

What I don't understand is the last time oil prices were at this level, petrol was about £1.40 and heating oil about 65-75p. This time petrol is £1.80 and heating oil 95p.

Can't help feeling we're being ripped off, even with the increased oil price. In fact I'm sure the refiners will have hedged at very good prices over the past couple of years.

AM9 · 5 Jun 2022

py_megapixel said:
Well, what else are they supposed to do?

Firstly reduce driving when it isn't strictly necessary, for instance if the price is £2.03, then reducing usage by 10% means that the fuel costs will be the same as it was when they were £1.85. Not everybody will see any driving as not strictly necessary, let alone 10%; but if they have a need to contain the cost it might help focus their mind a little.

cactustwirly · 5 Jun 2022

AM9 said:
Firstly reduce driving when it isn't strictly necessary, for instance if the price is £2.03, then reducing usage by 10% means that the fuel costs will be the same as it was when they were £1.85. Not everybody will see any driving as not strictly necessary, let alone 10%; but if they have a need to contain the cost it might help focus their mind a little.

Yes and you can always alter your driving style.
Most of my trips are to work or the shops, which I consider essential.

I also consider the cost of public transport when taking leisure journeys, I took the train to Birmingham because it was just about the cheapest option.

Fuel is still very expensive, and public transport isn't suitable for every journey.

I did a tactical fuel stop at Westbury on Friday, diesel was 183.9 there. Noticed one of the BPs near me is now 189.9.

Starmill · 5 Jun 2022

Judging by the number of people who drive down my suburban residential street at more than 30 miles / hour, and who habitually accelerate rapidly and then brake heavily before each turn, the price of fuel hasn't gone up at all enough to start changing behaviour among individuals. The same driving style is still in evidence on the motorway too.

Road hauliers, bus and train companies, and other fleet managers are probably feeling the sting in so far as they are not contracted for fuel at previous lower rates. They are already very keen on maximising fuel efficiency.

Medium term the other thing people might be able to do is downgrade the size or engine capacity of their car, or if they have the cash, upgrade to a newer, more efficient model. Again not really any evidence of this happening.

I'm sure the price will rise still further through the rest of this year. Fuel at many service stations is already up to £1.99 / litre.

muz379 · 6 Jun 2022

Starmill said:
Medium term the other thing people might be able to do is downgrade the size or engine capacity of their car, or if they have the cash, upgrade to a newer, more efficient model. Again not really any evidence of this happening.

There is scarcity in the used car market at the minute with neawer new cars in partciular depreciating a lot less so this might be causing people to hold out on changing cars

Eyersey468 · 6 Jun 2022

Starmill said:
Judging by the number of people who drive down my suburban residential street at more than 30 miles / hour, and who habitually accelerate rapidly and then brake heavily before each turn, the price of fuel hasn't gone up at all enough to start changing behaviour among individuals. The same driving style is still in evidence on the motorway too.

Road hauliers, bus and train companies, and other fleet managers are probably feeling the sting in so far as they are not contracted for fuel at previous lower rates. They are already very keen on maximising fuel efficiency.

Medium term the other thing people might be able to do is downgrade the size or engine capacity of their car, or if they have the cash, upgrade to a newer, more efficient model. Again not really any evidence of this happening.

I'm sure the price will rise still further through the rest of this year. Fuel at many service stations is already up to £1.99 / litre.

I think a lot of the bigger bus companies and road hauliers will have agreed the price for their fuel in advance as they have the bulk buying power to do it, though on the local bus side the companies get a rebate of some of the fuel duty which does help a bit

Failed Unit · 6 Jun 2022

AM9 said:
Firstly reduce driving when it isn't strictly necessary, for instance if the price is £2.03, then reducing usage by 10% means that the fuel costs will be the same as it was when they were £1.85. Not everybody will see any driving as not strictly necessary, let alone 10%; but if they have a need to contain the cost it might help focus their mind a little.

I have actually noticed that the roads do feel quieter (although this doesn't seem to be backed up by any official figures) - It just doesn't feel as busy in towns such as your very own St Albans and the queue at the normal places don't seem as bad.

As for fuel it has hit 179.9 at many places in the Herts region, but on the other side I found 168.9 at Sainsbury Biggleswade (which I thought was very good as it is as close to an A1 services as you can get without being on the road itself)

nlogax · 6 Jun 2022

End of last week in SW London I paid 1.73 for regular unleaded.
Before I leave East Ren next weekend I'll be paying 1.67 locally.

As an unexpected aside at the beginning of last week in southern California I paid roughly what we were paying in the UK twelve months ago. It does feel like the historical gulf between European and US fuel prices are really narrowing quite quickly.

Failed Unit · 6 Jun 2022

AM9 said:
Firstly reduce driving when it isn't strictly necessary, for instance if the price is £2.03, then reducing usage by 10% means that the fuel costs will be the same as it was when they were £1.85. Not everybody will see any driving as not strictly necessary, let alone 10%; but if they have a need to contain the cost it might help focus their mind a little.

I have actually noticed that the roads do feel quieter (although this doesn't seem to be backed up by any official figures) - It just doesn't feel as busy in towns such as your very own St Albans and the queue at the normal places don't seem as bad.

As for fuel it has hit 179.9 at many places in the Herts region, but on the other side I found 168.9 at Sainsbury Biggleswade (which I thought was very good as it is as close to an A1 services as you can get without being on the road itself)

Snow1964 · 6 Jun 2022

Mcr Warrior said:
BP does seem to be amongst the priciest outlet in my local area. Wonder whether BP petrol/diesel is in any way superior to that sold by the supermarkets, or whether it's marketing and all essentially the same stuff.

It is the same basic fuel EN228 for unleaded and EN590 for diesel. This arrives in bulk from the refineries. The specs contain whole list of parameters eg max sulphur content (but different batches will be different, as long as doesn’t exceed the limit)

At the road tanker loading terminal each retailer adds their own blend of additives (a smallish quantity is blended in whilst loading few thousand litres of fuel). BP fuel does have lubricant and cleaners included, but supermarket brands might not.

If you ask in the kiosk they should be able to give you the spec sheet of what you are buying (bit like ingredients list on food), not that I have ever seen any customer request it.

92002 · 6 Jun 2022

Standard unleaded in Sainsbury Glasgow 172.9 last Wednesday.

alxndr · 6 Jun 2022

I just got myself a Costco membership solely for the fuel, paid 176.7p for Diesel on Saturday with most other places being over 180 now.

I'm at the point where I've looked at getting the train instead of driving, but it still works out more expensive, especially when working nights and thus having to buy some singles. I'm also hesitant to rely on Scotrail's late evening trains at the moment.

devon_metro · 6 Jun 2022

trebor79 said:
What I don't understand is the last time oil prices were at this level, petrol was about £1.40 and heating oil about 65-75p. This time petrol is £1.80 and heating oil 95p.

Can't help feeling we're being ripped off, even with the increased oil price. In fact I'm sure the refiners will have hedged at very good prices over the past couple of years.

Several reasons that weren't really considerations before:
-cost of ethanol in fuel - it's now 10% content unless you buy premium unleaded
-cost of biofuel content
-oil is priced in dollars. $ is currently strong against the £
-not buying Russian crude oil, meaning oil needs to be sourced from elsewhere, sometimes at higher cost
-loss of Russian refined products (a big factor for Europe) meaning the market is much tighter so cost is up
-retailer costs will be higher to 2012/2013 period (wage inflation etc.)

In real terms, £1.80/litre is equivalent to around £1.50/litre in 2012/2013, so not hugely different when factoring in inflation.

Cheshire Rover · 7 Jun 2022

I paid £1.71.9 last night. This morning the price had gone up to £1.75.9. 4p in 10 hours.

GS250 · 7 Jun 2022

First £100 unleaded fill up for me. Could have pushed it to £110 had I waited until I was running on fumes. I remember the outcry when a Mondeo fill up was £50 (granted it was performed using Super Unleaded from near empty!) and I don't think it was that long ago? Probably 20 years maybe?

Still...yes she's a bit of a big thirsty beast (by todays standards) but if you have an extremely reliable car that you trust...my advice would be to keep it. Especially if you just like the car, its looks and drive etc. Little point in trading in for a more economical model where you end up paying a lot more money for absolutely ridiculous electronic repairs (I'm talking German badged here).

Starmill · 8 Jun 2022

Washing South services BP are charging 203p / litre for petrol and 205p / litre for diesel.

Howardh · 9 Jun 2022

Seeing as some MP's love imperial, a £2/litre price for fuel is @ 4.54 l to the gallon is £9.08 per gallon. Maybe we should price them in pints so the signs show 113.9p/pint!! **I wouldn't put it past them..**

Busaholic · 9 Jun 2022

Yesterday in Penzance for unleaded:-

Tesco 169.9p per litre
Sainsbury 170.9p

Today's price
Tesco 178.9p
Sainsbury 174.9p

Unfortunately I forgot to fill up yesterday, so had to pay 174.9p before a longer journey tomorrow.

py_megapixel · 9 Jun 2022

The headline today appears to be that the RAC's figure for the cost to fill up an average family car has hit £100.

Is that a sign that the cost of living is too high, or that the average family car is too large? I think it's both, personally.

johncrossley · 9 Jun 2022

People aren't cutting down on discretionary trips. They aren't even driving more economically.

Howardh · 9 Jun 2022

johncrossley said:
People aren't cutting down on discretionary trips. They aren't even driving more economically.

I've always driven economically (I'm getting 52 miles to the gallon) to the point where the only way I could be more economical would be to cut out the floor and drive with my legs! I don't drive much, would rather use public transport whenever I can, and would probably jack in the car if Lidl did home deliveries!!

trebor79 · 9 Jun 2022

johncrossley said:
People aren't cutting down on discretionary trips. They aren't even driving more economically.

Not sure about that. I drove a reasonable distance on dual carriageways for the first time in a while today. I stuck to the speed limit and was often in the outside lane overtaking people driving more slowly. Usually there'd be a beamer or Audi up my jacksy and shoving past at 85+. Not today.
Fastest car I saw was a Polestar doing well over 80.
Roads were quite busy.

There was an independent garage owner on the Today programme saying people were buying less and filling less often. Said a delivery usually lasts her 7 to 10 days but currently lasts her about 3 weeks.

GS250 · 9 Jun 2022

johncrossley said:
People aren't cutting down on discretionary trips. They aren't even driving more economically.

Agreed. Still loads of braking and accelerating going on, even in heavy traffic. I've gained about 3mpg by easing up around town..

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