Objectively, probably. Politically, hmmm.
Even in those circumstances, resources are finite. That means choices have to be made. And TfL are now having to reconsider their choices because the impact of letting things run is becoming unacceptable to them.
It's got completely out of hand. Every 1972 car I have been on this week has been extensively tagged across every wall and even the floor. It's starting to look like 1980s New York. By contrast, I didn't see any tags inside 1973 stock. Why has the Bakerloo been singled out for zero cleaning?
The 72ts has no CCTV so vandals have no fear of being caught , vandals have probably caught onto this over time and only tagged stock that doesn't lead to them being caught and prosecuted.
I don't disagree that it is out of hand. But that doesn't alter the fact that choices have been made with finite resources - and that those choices are now changing because it has got out of hand.
Politically I think they’d get away with it
Let's be honest, Reform has no chance in London, they came fifth in the last Mayoral Election.
For context, a single ticket on Cardiff Bus is £2.50.
How much would it cost to fit CCTV? The 72 stock isn't going anywhere for a few years, even if the replacements were ordered today. The reduction in vandalism would cover some of the cost.
Accepting that TfL is cost constrained, how much of the cost?
I have no idea what the numbers are, hence my question. But say it costs £10k to fit CCTV, and that saves £15k of cleaning costs over five years, that's a win. Then again, if they don't remove the graffiti, the cleaning cost is zero.
To be honest even trains with CCTV get vandalized. Almost half of the 95ts have their in carraige diagrams semi pulled off or pulled off in some carriages. Nowhere near as bad as the 72ts though, so CCTV does stop vandalism a fair bit
No opportunity for temporary hidden CCTV on a few trains? Then a few very public convictions and an attempt at compo for removing every example of that particular tag. Is there already a “you are on CCTV“ notice that would cover it legally?
I'm not sure it's feasibly possible to add CCTV onto the 1972 stock without a major overhaul.
Not to Londoners of a particular age it wouldn't.... and they tend to be much more likely to vote!
Why hide the cameras? Then it's no longer a deterrent!
Please report to TfL - they have an online reporting tool.
I’m thinking stand alone battery cameras stuck on hidden or disguised.
