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4SRKT Your post about Gorton loop got me looking into it. Apparently it's not accessible to passenger trains because, like at Corrour, it's operated by ground frames at each end. There's no electricity at either location to operate the mechanism. (The station lights at Corrour are powered by a wind turbine.) All other loops on the WHL are sprung/automatic ones that the train can just pass over, whereas at Gorton/Corrour the train would have to stop and allow the guard to get out and operate the levers. Then reset them when the train's in the loop, then operate the other side, then reset it when the train's out. Hence they're hardly used at all, maybe occasionally by engineers' road-rail vehicles when they have to get out of the way but that's about it.

The move at Rannoch appears to be 100% safe, not just because of the above, but because the sleeper is brought from Fort William by one driver, who swaps with a Glasgow man there, who has come north on the unit. The Fort William man then goes back on the unit. This means that the sleeper cannot depart as soon as the unit arrives. I can thoroughly recommend this move BTW. Split at Helensburgh, as a CDR Edinburgh > Helensburgh + advances Helensburgh > Rannoch and return is £5.80 less than advances Edinburgh > Rannoch and return.
 
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Yet another fascinating read, sounds like you had a great time. Glad to hear the Rannoch move is safe, I might just have to factor it in at some point in August, so thanks for the gen :)

Must be getting on for a good few 67s and 91s under your belt now!
 

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31st May. Another early start, once again from Shipley on the favoured 06:35 to the Cross, with 91114 in charge. I’m going all the way to the blocks this time, rather than just using it as a comfortable way of getting to Leeds, so clocking up a tidy 196½ miles towards the year’s loco-hauled total. I was seriously tired so slept most of the way, but hadn’t yet dropped off when we paused for a few minutes near Fitzwilliam. The guard helpfully informed the train that this was due to us following a preceding service. Hmmm, thanks for that. I’m glad that’s been cleared up as I’d been mistakenly assuming that the ECML had been laid purely for the purpose of getting the 06:30 ex-Bradford smoothly to the Cross each day. Is a meaningless explanation better than no explanation? Probably very slightly in situations where your audience may not understand the real reason anyway, but it’s not OK to patronise and fob off normals in this way IMHO. I woke up properly at around Hatfield for the final approach to London and we arrived at the Cross 12 minutes late. I’d been looking forward to being on this train with its new timing, given just 119 minutes from Leeds to London, so it was a bit disappointing not to be able to take advantage of it. Potentially a nuisance as well, as any delays on the Underground could now bowl me for my onward train. No such bad luck though, and at Waterloo I boarded a 4-car 450 on the 09:42 to Basingstoke with 7 minutes to spare. We arrived on time at Weybridge in this 21st Century 4-VEP and a day’s work loomed.

After a very good and surprisingly enjoyable day (Fantasy Route Planning is one of my favourite sports), I caught the 17:10 455 from Byfleet & New Haw as far as Surbiton. The object now was gricing as many new lines as possible this evening. From Surbiton it was the short branch to Hampton Court I was after, covered by the Travelcard despite being outside Greater London. As the 455 pulled into Thames Ditton I couldn’t help noticing that it is the most affluent place I’ve ever seen. Two obviously very posh kids got on pretending to be chavs. Why do people do this? Most people would give their eye teeth for the wealth and privilege these kids enjoy and will doubtless continue to enjoy throughout their lives. The station at Hampton Court was battered and knocked about, but the whole town of East Molesey seemed frazzled and dowdy in comparison with Thames Ditton. Straight back out on the 17:54 as far as Clapham Junction, where I sourced rations in the M&S Food shop there. Next move was a 377 on the 18:39 to Milton Keynes, taken as far as Wembley Central. The train was completely wedged and took 32 minutes to cover less than 10 miles. Still, I required the burrow under from platforms 16/17 to Latchmere, and the link from Mitre Bridge to West London Junction, so it had to be done, despite the boredom and discomfort. Once on the WCML at West London Junction I had hoped that things would speed up, but if anything they got slower. Still, plenty of locos to be seen, including 86101 on a short rake of ex-W&S Mk IIIs in blue and grey, which all looked very Willesden circa 1984. Is Wembley Central the ugliest station on the network? Maybe Walsall can beat it into second place, but not by much. We were 3 down on arrival, and the next Bakerloo Line train southbound was in 4 minutes. This on a 5 minute interval service so I guessed I’d just missed one. A slight nuisance as I wanted to be on the 20:00 Liverpool Street > Enfield Town for required track from Hackney Downs onwards, and it was now 19:15. At Baker Street it was clear I had no chance of getting to Liverpool Street for the 20:00, so I decided to take it easy and travel in [relative] luxury on a Metropolitan Line A stock train that was in platform 3 and due to depart in 5 minutes.

Sure enough I missed the 20:00 by 5 minutes, so took the opportunity to have a breather and ‘phone home while I waited for the 20:30. The 315 was a slight treat in that it had its original seats and so was internally the same layout as an NIR 450 class DEMU. It also made a gratifyingly loud noise from the compressor. At Silver Street a large crowd of 14-or-so-year-old girls (I believe the correct term is ‘posse’) joined the train. They were all heavily made up and staggering around on high heels and saying ‘innit’ a lot. The air was heavy with the smell of bubblegum and cheap perfume. Still, they were mildly entertaining on an otherwise seriously boring journey. Enfield Town station was rather dilapidated, and the town centre nondescript in the extreme. However, on the road towards the Chase it all got very pleasant and presented a very different face to the world. I had quarter of an hour to kill so I made a beer move to a rather nice tile-fronted pub called the Old Wheatsheaf near Enfield Chase station. I took the 21:29 to Moorgate (last train of the day before they start going to the Cross instead) and bailed at Highbury & Islington. From here I went upstairs to the North London Line platforms to sample the new section along the old Broad Street alignment (which I required having never been to Broad Street when it was open). I’d never been on a 378 before (mercifully last time I did the NLL it was still a 313, although the first 378s were out and about by then), and ‘spartan’ is the word that springs to mind. Here was a train that managed to make all previous generations of unloved and unlovely NLL stock in the shape of 313s, 2-EPBs and class 501 jail wagons seem luxurious, which is quite a feat. At 22:08 and only 13 minutes after departing H&I I was glad to leave this park bench on wheels at Whitechapel. Now that I’ve done all the London Overground lines at one time or another I probably will never have to go on one of these again, and they can join Voyagers, 185s and Pendolinos on the list of Avoid If Possible trains. By this stage I was tired of gricing and went upstairs to the LU platforms to take a Hammersmith & City Line train. The first two departures to be called from platform 3 were District Line trains, and it was almost 10 minutes before a set of C69 stock rolled in and took me to Paddington for the sleeper.

57604 was in charge tonight and looking resplendent in its GWR green livery. I was only riding as far as Plymouth this time, so getting to sleep is much more urgent. Made time for heads-out leaving Paddington before retiring to the cabin to get my head down. I was still sufficiently awake at Reading to see that we headed towards Didcot rather than via the Desert. I then fell asleep and did not wake up until a knock on the door at 05:30 with breakfast. The train doesn’t go on from Plymouth until 05:49, so time for a leisurely wash, bacon roll and cup of tea before disembarking. I asked the steward which route we’d taken, and it was Swindon > Melksham > Westbury, so that’s 34¼ extra loco hauled miles in the book :) I watched the ‘snatcher in its handsome livery depart, sadly without any thrash, then went for a bit of a stroll to wake up properly.

I actually quite like Plymouth city centre. As 1950s city centres go it works well as a coherent whole, and is the only one I’ve ever seen that feels appropriate and/or looks prosperous. Compared with the like of Bradford or Peterborough the only conclusion I can come to is that if you are misguided enough to do this sort of thing it is better to have the Luftwaffe clear everything away rather than adopt a piecemeal approach to brutalism. However, nothing can excuse the truly squalid concrete excrescence that is the multi-storey car park directly opposite the station entrance: its tattered ‘Welcome to Plymouth’ banners draped pathetically over the rust patches bleeding into the concrete being anything but welcoming.

What did I say about avoiding Voyagers? ‘If possible’ I believe, and sadly it was no longer so. To my credit I’d only done 40 miles on one so far this year from Llandudno Junction to Holyhead, but now was time to take the plunge with 134 miles to Bristol Parkway on the 06:25 Glasgow Central working. The smell from the toilet on the Super Vomit Comet was unpleasant and unfortunately my reserved seat wasn’t far enough away from it. Over the bogie also so a pretty rough ride. I simply cannot imagine what it would be like to ride on this all the way on the 10 hour journey to Glasgow. Enough to make anyone doubt his sanity I would say, although I doubt anyone actually does ride right through. Not more than once anyway. Still, the ride over the Devon banks on a glorious summer’s morning was delightful and the journey soon passed, though after Exeter mostly in a deep and relaxing sleep. I awoke passing where Bath Road depot had been (what’s happened to that BTW? Possibly shows how long it is since I’ve been to Bristol by train) to find the train wedged. Loads off at Temple Meads, but loads on as well, and again at Parkway, so I assume it was yet another Cross Country sardine special for most of the rest of the journey.

Following a day’s work at our Bristol depot, I was dropped back at Parkway for the 15:40 FGW Cardiff HST as far as Newport. This was showing as being expected at 15:51, and eventually left at 15:54. My connection at Newport was a plus 24, which should have been fine, but I hadn’t eaten since breakfast so I had been hoping to find something near the station. Beyond Pilning we came to an unexplained stand, losing further minutes, and when we restarted there was no urgency about it. I had hardly been on the Western Region for years until recently, so the name Worst Late Western had little meaning for me. Until now. We were checked again at the entrance to the tunnel, and things started to get worrying. Eventually we were let in and we carried on without further ado to Newport. Approaching the station we were treated to the ‘following another service’ delay excuse again, and then the cause of the trouble became clear. 66093 on a rake of bogie tankers had passed through Parkway as we were waiting for the late running 15:40. Here it was now on the down slow heading towards Newport as we passed it on the approach to the platforms. So how does this work then? A class 1 top link express working, already delayed by engineering work between Paddington and Hayes, is further delayed by some clown letting a lumbering freight into the tunnel ahead of it?? Not good. Now 20 down on arrival at Newport I crossed the footbridge and 57315 was arriving at platform 4 on the WAG train as I stepped off the stairs. Still, I made it and that’s the main thing (despite still not having eaten), with another bout of loco-haulage ahead of me. How my GM-hating friend would have smiled at the poetic justice had a 66 caused me to be bowled out on the WAG 57!

The WAG train was very full again. Surely it can’t be out of the question to get another TSO in the rake, as load four is hardly an effort for a powerful loco. Or maybe ATW have as their mission statement to provide not quite enough seats on every service. I got as close to the front as I could bearing in mind first class is next to the loco. Vestibule veg were occupying all the key droplights though, which while encouraging was a bit annoying for others wanting heads-out. They mostly turned out to be insects though, bailing at Cwmbran, so that was OK. After Abergavenny I had my head out most of the way to Chester, which was really great. It was a beautiful evening and the scenery is very nice. The 57 was nice and claggy and we bucketed along at 90+. I only wish they made as much racket as their Irish engine-mates the 071 class. This was just like it should be though, and almost like it always was. I was talking to the only other remaining basher, a very youthful Crewe-based enthusiast who declared himself to be THE biggest 57/3 crank in the world, so it looks like Drimnagh Road may have competition! I have to say I enjoyed this run as much as I have enjoyed any journey on a service train in years, so thank you WAG for spending such a lot of money on a daily nostalgia trip for middle aged bashers! Recession or no, I begrudge you this spending not. The smells from the restaurant car were tantalising, but I held out: food can happen any time, but bashing will be over soon. As I watched the ‘snatcher pull away from Chester I reflected that the North Wales Coast has always been a bit of a haven for the basher. The last refuge of the 40s in the early ‘80s, then the 37s in the ‘90s and early 2000s, and now this, just about the last daytime loco-hauled service left.

Starving hungry by this stage, I left the station in search of rations. I was quite unimpressed by the oppressive road scheme the city fathers have bestowed upon Chester so close to its historic core, and even less so with the walk through the dimly-lit, stinking ****oir of a subway to reach the main drag. Even the subways in Bradford smell less offensive and have better lighting than this. I found the inevitable Burger King and had a filling feed, even Going Large for the first time ever to my shame. I then returned to the station for the 19:50 to Manchester, and of course it’s a 175, easily my favourite modern unit. The journey to Manchester Oxford Road passed very pleasantly in the cool, air-conditioned comfort of the Coradia, and I started to feel very tired indeed after my exertions. Still, it had been worth it, notwithstanding all the new bits of required track covered off, I had 604½ miles of loco-haulage under my belt to add to the annual total.

After quarter of an hour at Oxford Road 185145 rolled in on the 21:07 to York. Ugh. I know 185s come under Avoid If Possible, but it’s very hard to avoid them altogether when you live where I do, so under sufferance I took my seat for the ride across the Pennines to Leeds. At Piccadilly a large and rough-looking family boarded the train and were our boisterous companions all the way to Leeds. In contrast to the kids boarding at Thames Ditton the day before, these were *not* posh people pretending to be chavs. Nor indeed were they chavs pretending to be posh people. They were what they were, that is noisy, bumptious, but totally pleasant-seeming people who seemed a lot happier with their lot than some of the tutting passengers elsewhere in the coach. I was totally exhausted by this stage and retreated into the i-pod for much of the journey. Having been blasted by boisterousness on one side and Hüsker Dü and the Sex Pistols on the other, I emerged slightly dazed from the train and made my way over to the bays for the 22:28 to Skipton (very minimally annoyingly out of the normal xx:26/xx:56 pattern since the new timetable). Unlike the last time I tried a late move from Leeds to Saltaire this train was formed of the usual 333 instead of a heterogeneous assortment of DMUs, and passed off without incident.

Another fun packed extravaganza taken during time that the rest of my colleagues would have mindlessly spent driving and/or staring at the walls or watching porn in a room at a Premier Inn. Who’s having the better time I wonder?
 
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fan blooming tastic! We love these blogs and this one sounds again a great bash! Worried the vomiter smelled that bad that early. You should complain! must do the wag myself before it is doubtless cut and its nice to know fc is just behind the loco! Grand. Thanks.
 

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That's a highly interesting post, thanks for that 4SRKT! I find it strange how a signaller concluded it best to prioritise a 66 over your HST.. I've used the WAG 3 times so far, every time in First and found the food to consistently be the best i've ever had on a train before.
Expensive at £59 Cdf to Ctr, but the quality of the food just about justifies it IMO.
 

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TBF only one of the Vomit Comet's toilet smelt bad, so maybe there had been a problem emptying that one. Later in the day as I was waiting at Parkway for the late running tram to Newport, another 221 pulled into the platform and it positively stank. A shame really, as these trains would be OK if it wasn't for being too short and too smelly. They have great windows for a modern train.
 

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Do they syphon all the crap out of the Vomiters at EC then? Yuk. Scotland on a 185? As long as there's a hole in my arse I'll never do any such thing!
 

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Oh I dunno, I did Carlisle to Manchester Piccadilly on a 185 once, autumn 2008 I think. Got a seat, but only I suspect because I had a seat reservation, and the journey wasn't that bad. Not the greatest, but Manchester Airport to Middlesbrough via Salford Crescent, Manchester Victoria, over t'Pennines to Leeds and up to Darlington before finally heading over to Middlesbrough, now that was a horrid journey.

As for the latest blog entry, yet another fascinating read 4SRKT. Glad to hear you had a good run on the WAG-Ex, if I'd known you were coming up this way on Monday I'd have popped down to the station at Hereford and would have had a bellow!
 

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Not the greatest, but Manchester Airport to Middlesbrough via Salford Crescent, Manchester Victoria, over t'Pennines to Leeds and up to Darlington before finally heading over to Middlesbrough, now that was a horrid journey.

I hope you went under rather than over the Pennines!


4SRKT - if you ever see a bloke with long hair in a shirt but shorts on your 0635 it's probably me - I usually catch it to London on a Monday or Tuesday. Thanks for you blog.
 

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I hope you went under rather than over the Pennines!


4SRKT - if you ever see a bloke with long hair in a shirt but shorts on your 0635 it's probably me - I usually catch it to London on a Monday or Tuesday. Thanks for you blog.

I'll keep an eye out!
 

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16th June. A less ambitious scheme this time, so a shorter report. Two work meetings, one in Peterborough, then in Crewe the following day. A nice easy start on the 10:10 from Saltaire into Leeds permitted an hour or so’s work at home to get e-mails dealt with etc before setting off. The 333 was 4 minutes late leaving Saltaire, but this is hardly unusual. The public timetable gives trains 3 minutes to cover the 2¼ miles from Bingley to Saltaire, but 4 for the ¾ mile from Saltaire to Shipley. The result of this is that trains are hardly ever on time leaving Saltaire, yet on time departures from Shipley are the norm. We were only one down at Leeds at 10:29, but the platform for the 10:45 to the Cross hadn’t been called yet. 91117 was sitting at the blocks in platform 6, and I surmised this would be the one. I took the opportunity to take a stroll around the station getting some shots of units before platform 6 was indeed called for the 10:45 and I boarded. The 10:45 left on time and I promptly drifted off into the state of dazed reverie that is the best way to cover the ECML.

At Doncaster we departed 6 minutes late with no explanation. I woke up later inside Stoke Tunnel, where we were going very slowly, and arrival at Peterborough was 13 late at 12:18 in the end. An apology this time but again no explanation. Arrival was unusually on platform 3, a platform I don’t think I’ve ever set foot on before, so if I were a platform gricer I could red pen it. Luckily I’m no such thing, so it’s neither interesting nor relevant.

Back at Peterborough station for the 16:52 Cross Country to Birmingham New Street. Unfortunately a 170, but the interior of XC’s sets is nicer than ScotRail’s so it’s not altogether bad. This train stops at South Wigston, Narborough and Hinckley outside the normal pattern so taking an extra 7 minutes to get to Birmingham at 18:45 rather than xx:38, which would leave me only 10 minutes to get from New Street to Moor Street, buy a ticket, and get on the 18:55 to Stourbridge Junction. Tight but doable. It was quite annoying therefore to find the train coming to a stand short of Stamford for nearly 10 minutes. The reason [eventually] offered up by the guard being that a freight train was being allowed into the sidings at Ketton and we had to wait until this manoeuvre was completed. Either (i) this was the longest freight train in the world, (ii) the operation was being done on Slow Speed Control, or (iii) the operation to enter the sidings is more complex than the phrase ‘being allowed into the sidings’ would suggest, but eventually we pulled away. After the Severn Tunnel incident on 31st May, this is the second dubious signalling decision I’ve endured in not much more than a couple of weeks involving a freight being given priority over a passenger working. TBF the driver really caned the 170 to Oakham, whence lateness was reduced to 8 minutes. Still 8 minutes late at Leicester though, with no hope of getting to the 18:55 at Moor Street, yet not late enough to eat much into the unappealing wait for the next departure at 19:23 :( After the flyover at Nuneaton (first time I’ve been over this I think) came the somewhat surprising sight of what appeared to be a working colliery at Daw Mill. Ha! Missed one Maggie! The containerbase at Hams Hall was unfortunately screened off by trees, so I couldn’t see what was going on there. Why would the developers of such a facility assume that passers by on trains would be so horrified by the sight of containers, gantries and 66s that they need to be protected from such offensive sights? OK, I can see how some fans of British-built Ruston-engined freight locos might get upset about seeing sheds all over the place, but other than catering for this presumably small minority of the travelling public it seems a lot of expense to go to. Anyway, a shed was coming off the direct Water Orton > Walsall line on container flats after we’d passed through Water Orton, so all that effort was all in vain. We passed the enormous central hub of Business Post in Birmingham, where I’d very nearly taken a job in charge of ops development three years ago, and which firm to their credit once experimented with using rail linehauls to move parcels and mail to Scotland. This foundered on the knock-on problems caused when anything at all went even slightly wrong with the rail operation. It’s a shame, but if rail is ever to get a share of fast moving, time sensitive freight like this, it will have to undergo some sort of revolution.

Five minutes late at New Street meant just too late to get to Moor Street for the 18:55, but an irritating wait for the 19:23 at a time of day when I just want to sit down and relax. I hung around New Street for quarter of an hour to take a few shots, including one of a Cross Country tram on the 19:03 to Leeds. New Street is one of the few major locations on the network that is still just the same as it was 25 years ago. In the case of one other such place I’ve already mentioned (Carlisle) this is clearly a positive. In the case of New Street it really isn’t. The whole place feels as though it is a carefully preserved slice of 1960s grimness, streaked with 20 further years of decay and unlovedness that was so characteristic of British cities in the mid-80s. Perhaps this preservation is intended to serve as a warning to urban planners and architects of the future. The walk to Moor Street has certainly changed though. A dim childhood memory of being corralled down a bleak concrete canyon full of beggars and hawkers between a busy road and the world’s most run down market is impossible to recreate now. Good. The last time I caught a train from Moor Street it was a terminus, so it’s new line for me as far as Smethwick Galton Bridge, but boy, what a dull line. Apart from the sudden spectacular view of the Galton Bridge itself bestriding the canal far below as it enters a tunnel, this 12½ mile trundle in a 150 taking 33 minutes is about the most boring journey I’ve made in the last year, including various permutations of the Dartford lines and going to Enfield Town. Imagine going all the way to Worcester on this crate! At the Junction it’s through the subway to take Parry People Mover 139002 along the branch. What a hilarious train! It’s great fun though, although I was surprised to see the booking office at Stourbridge Town was open past 8 o’clock. TBH I was surprised to see a booking office there at all. Not only that but the PPM had a two man crew despite booking offices at both ends and the ‘guard’ not carrying any visible means of selling tickets. What’s all that about then? I was met at Stourbridge Town by my sister and we strolled back to her house where I stayed over for the night.

Next morning more fun and frolics with the PPM. The booking office clerk woke up and dusted off his machine to sell me a ticket. The sight of serious looking commuters standing at the tiny Stourbridge Town platform reading newspapers while waiting for this comedy train was slightly surreal! More 150 misery as far as Galton Bridge on the 07:32 to Whitlock’s End (who is Whitlock BTW, and what has his end done to warrant having a station named after it?): I have never known 22 minutes take so long. At Galton Bridge I transferred downstairs to platform 3 for 350238 on the 08:08 to Liverpool, taken as far as Crewe. This is my first go on a 350, and it’s an OK train I suppose. Not sure about the 3+2 seating configuration for a run such as Birmingham > Liverpool though, and some fold out tables in the seat backs would be nice. Biggest issue I have though is calling these trains ‘Desiros’, with all that implies in terms of desirability. Sure, it’s a nice enough train, but as for actively arousing desire? I think not. TBF most of my previous Desiro experience has been on 185s, where the only desire-o I experience is to alight-o as soon as possiblo, so this is certainly an improvement. On time at Crewe at 08:56 where 3 class 86s were visible on the approach. A Freightliner liveried one in the yard, NR liveried 424, and 401 looking resplendent in Network SouthEast colours. Next up a 20 minute walk to the depot.

En route to the depot I had spotted what looked like the end of a potential shortcut emerging from some trees, which I then tried on the way back. Sure enough, it shaved 5 minutes off the walk. I was very glad to be walking because traffic in Crewe was more or less at gridlock, quite an irony for the ultimate railway town. I passed up the chance to ride on a 175 to Manchester to take 323223 on the 13:34 stopper. There were two reasons for this: (i) I require the south curve at Manchester Airport, and (ii) it enables me to crash into the ongoing row between Ivo and Sprinterguy about whether 323s are awful or great respectively. Notwithstanding any nuances of difference between Northern and London Midland examples of which I may be unaware I can only conclude that these are OK trains. Definitely not the worst, 378s having moved to an unassailable position at the top of that leaderboard, unlikely ever to be displaced unless someone brings back open third class wagons from the Liverpool & Manchester Railway. 323s are nippy, make a good noise from the traction motors, and make a cheerful whoop-whooping noise when starting up. This gives me happy memories of frequent trips to Holland in the late 1990s where NS’ Dubbeldeks Materieel were the first sets I heard making this noise. TBH I’m with Sprinterguy on this one.

As swiftly as I crashed into this argument, I’m going to crash out again. 323s might be OK, but they’re not as good as 175s and having scratched the line I’m glad I won’t have to do this again. I slept most of the way to Piccadilly, but luckily not over the required curve. At Piccadilly I decided I have enough photos of 142s, Sprinters and Voyagers already, and have no desire to start taking shots of Pendos, so I couldn’t summon up the energy to wander around taking pictures. I descended to the undercroft for the tram to Victoria, which was uneventful apart from the delightful company of two of the scummiest teenage girls it’s ever been my misfortune to encounter. At Victoria I flagged the 144 on the 15:00 via Brighouse not because I don’t like pacers but because I was knackered and didn’t want to have to change additionally at Hebden Bridge to get back to Bradford. I hung around for the 15:21 via Bradford hoping it would be a 155 (haven’t had one yet this year), but a 3-car 158 rolled into platform 1 at 15:11.

Flagging the 15:00 turned out to have been the best decision of the day. A woman from Northern got on and advised passengers for Rochdale to “go to platform 6”; passengers going beyond Rochdale were unceremoniously told “you won’t be going anywhere”. When I asked “why not?”, I was told "I can’t tell you". Thinking she was joking I looked up to see that she wasn’t at all, but considered it acceptable to talk to paying customers like this. "There’s a valid reason, but I can’t tell you” she said. I packed up my stuff and went to ask the guard what was going on. He also wouldn’t tell me what was going on, but evasively opined that if the line was closed it was beyond Northern’s control. At this stage with still no explanation on the table a not unreasonable assumption would have been that one of Northern’s trains had failed, something well within their responsibility. I went back through the barrier where the RPI advised me to go to platform 6. I must have looked as though I was starting to get annoyed when I told him I was going to Bradford, and he told me that someone had been struck on the line at Rochdale. At last. A proper explanation from someone prepared to treat the people who pay his wages as adults. I immediately understood the situation, thanked him, and reevaluated my plans. Why oh why couldn’t this explanation have been offered straightaway? They were going to have to deal with thousands of angry people at Victoria that evening, so starting off with a ‘nya-nya, we know a secret and we’re not telling’ approach seems likely to start a riot. It seems Northern station staff’s inability to cope in a crisis (with one notable exception this time) extends well beyond Leeds.

I went to the booking office and got my money back on the Littleborough > Walsden and Walsden > Saltaire singles I’d just bought, and got my Crewe > Littleborough ticket excessed to a Crewe > Huddersfield. Finally I bought a Huddersfield > Saltaire single and got back on a tram to Piccadilly. I caught the 15:57 to Scarborough which was wedged and of course a 185. I’d chosen to go via the Calder Valley for a bit of a change, to save my employer a couple of quid, and to avoid 185s. Now here I was on the same old cattle run from Manchester to Leeds, narrowly missing the 16:56 Skipton train. Unprepared to endure more wedgery on the 17:26, I took the 17:10 Forster Square working and walked from Shipley.

The chaos at Victoria/Rochdale was affecting Leeds by this time, with westbound Calder Valley services being turned back at Hebden Bridge. I was glad to turn my back on this farce and head for home, imagining as I did so where I might be now had I caught that 144 at 15:00. Rochdale I suppose, and some might say that’d be divine retribution for bashing pacers.
 
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It's excellent to hear that you have a positive opinion of 323s. Shame that Ivo isn't around at the moment, it's been a bit quiet without him!

Another excellent read 4SRKT, well done. And a very interesting sounding circular trip around the middle of the country.
 

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another grand trip! Pitty about the 185. Agreed xc's turbos are not bad. Thanks again. By the way, you coming on the west yorks challenge in august? Your local knoledge of the best pacers would help!
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It depends. When is it planned for?
 

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As always, an excellent read. I too am glad to hear you found the 323s OK, you may now join Sprinterguy and I on the 'We like 323s' side. Yes I like 323s but keep relatively quiet about it.

Surprised you didn't enjoy the 150s you got on, I love 'em. Especially on a stopper up Old Hill bank, if you've got an enthusiastic driver on you're in for a good ride. Or at least, that's how I found it last week and the week before.
 

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As always, an excellent read. I too am glad to hear you found the 323s OK, you may now join Sprinterguy and I on the 'We like 323s' side. Yes I like 323s but keep relatively quiet about it.

Surprised you didn't enjoy the 150s you got on, I love 'em. Especially on a stopper up Old Hill bank, if you've got an enthusiastic driver on you're in for a good ride. Or at least, that's how I found it last week and the week before.

TBH I think I was just too tired to enjoy it. The downside of cranking while travelling with work is that I've usually just done several hours of sometimes intellectually draining work before I start. The upside of course (and it massively outweighs the downside) is that somebody else is paying for it :)
 

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sat 20th august mate. Oh and count me in on 323 fan side as well, my complaints are I think more with the lack of attentiom paid to seat padding when LM refreshed them.

I'm not sure I'm going to be around then :( My summer plans aren't finalised but are centred on trying to get on the Spitfire class 50 tour to Edinburgh and the Fife Circle on 13th August. If I manage to coordinate to get on this, I may well be in Ireland with the family the following weekend.

I have to say the seat padding on the Northern 323 I was on wasn't the most generous, and a bit threadbare.
 

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you'll enjoy the spitfire! Always a popular run round the fife circle too, hoping your weather is good! Northern have got there work cut out as to train refurbs by the sound of it - the 150s are often moaned about and if the 323s are in need as well.... Have to say though i'm glad they kept the old transpmdnine express seating in there 158s, really cumfy
 

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TBH I think I was just too tired to enjoy it. The downside of cranking while travelling with work is that I've usually just done several hours of sometimes intellectually draining work before I start. The upside of course (and it massively outweighs the downside) is that somebody else is paying for it :)

Fair point, I'm usually exhausted by the end of the day when I'm at work and on my way home, so I'd not enjoy a cranking trip after work either. My work doesn't drain my brain of energy, it's more physical energy I'm out of by the time I finish.

As for your "Who'd want to go to Worcester on this crate?", I'd happily do that! For the last couple of trips, I've done Stourbridge to Worcester quite happily, the trip in April I joined at Birmingham Moor Street. Still fancy doing the 1727 Stratford-upon-Avon to Worcester Foregate Street throughout, express to Whitlock's End (I have no idea where that name came from either!) with just one stop at Henley-in-Arden then semi-fast to Kidderminster before one final stop at Droitwich Spa before terminating in Worcester :D 59 miles and 67 chains for that according to RailMiles <D

Hmm, I think I know what I want to do tomorrow now :D<D
 

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Maybe the stretch between Stourbridge and Worcester is better. I'm sure it is: fewer stops and better views. I'd only done Worcester > Stourbridge > Birmingham (New Street as was) once before, sometime in the 1980s in a 116 with no bog, which wasn't a lot of fun either. Still, at least you could lean out.
 

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Oh it is, trust me. Much faster (we were going at quite a pace on Monday!) journey, the 32 minutes from Stourbridge Junction flew by. Although I'm slightly biased due to an interest in the 150s running on the line. Won't be much fun at all when the 172s start running all the time down that way in the next few months, although I'm interested in seeing what they look like at Great Malvern.
 

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I'm not at all keen on the LM 150s: About half an hour is as much as I can comfortably endure on one of those, the passenger saloon is awful in terms of seating and quite often upkeep. The one hour Snow Hill to Stratford journey is tediously frustrating! I think it is also partly down to the regular stop nature of the routes they operate, that precludes them from any decent speed running over the "core" (As you say, they get to stretch their legs a bit south of Stourbridge), that adds to my dissatisfaction.

I won't be alone in being pleased when they are replaced by much more comfortable 172s, which should help up the quality of the journey experience for me. I will be sad to see them go though from the point of view that the various Sprinter classes are some of my favourite units in service today: I'll admit there's little as pleasing to my ears as the sound of the Cummins NT855 engine: There's a pleasant familiarity to it.
 
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Fair enough. I've just been looking at the Stratford-upon-Avon line timetable and worked out a series of moves that should see me get all of the shacks I still need on that line out of the way, before getting the 1755 Stratford-upon-Avon to Worcester Foregate Street all the way throughout. That being the working I was referring to earlier, 1 hour and 46 minutes of 150 action :)

By this time tomorrow, should I actually do this series of moves then, I may well end up agreeing with you about the line. Until then, it's been something like 6 or 7 years since I last got a 150 out of Stratford-upon-Avon, having had a FGWL Turbo from Leamington Spa to the Warwickshire town! Which shows how long it's been on its own! I've been as far as Wythall this year though, but I didn't mind the regular stopping and starting since it meant more noise for me to enjoy from the Cummins NT855!
 
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