323221 new livery

[TrainTrackJack]

323221 seems to be carrying the original 1990s look for the class, vinyled by Soho.

Not my picture.

 

[DanNCL]

That’s not a vinyl wrap that’s paint!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

If they have time to paint them, they should have painted them into base Northern livery to minimise the time they’ll be out of service when they arrive there mid next year.

 

[DanNCL]

If they have time to paint them, they should have painted them into base Northern livery to minimise the time they’ll be out of service when they arrive there mid next year.

They aren’t all going to Northern.

 

[43096]

If they have time to paint them, they should have painted them into base Northern livery to minimise the time they’ll be out of service when they arrive there mid next year.

323221 is one of those not going to Northern.

 

[prod_pep]

Now this I can't wait to see! Best livery the 323s have carried in my opinion and it will be great to see it back.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

They aren’t all going to Northern.

I know you know I’m already well aware of that, but the point is if they haven’t chosen to take the ones due for Northern out of service for a repaint first (bearing in mind it’ll take a while to do them all) into Northern livery (as EMR did with 156s), instead preferring to do promotional “frother” stunts like this, then more fool them.

 

[L401CJF]

That looks excellent! I think its a nice nod to them. They've served the area well over the last 30 odd years!

 

[Liam L]

If they have time to paint them, they should have painted them into base Northern livery to minimise the time they’ll be out of service when they arrive there mid next year.

The unit in question didn’t have Paint and body work repairs back when the WMR livery was applied as was in BTP livery.

This must of been done while the unit was receiving said repairs.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

The unit in question didn’t have Paint and body work repairs back when the WMR livery was applied as was in BTP livery.

This must of been done while the unit was receiving said repairs.

Thank you for the information. I’ll be interested to see if 221 does end up with Northern.

 

[Liam L]

Thank you for the information. I’ll be interested to see if 221 does end up with Northern.

Quoted from the ‘WMR 323 visit(s) to Longsight’ thread(Post #43)

Transfer to Northern (17 units): 323202/203/205-213/217-219/241-243
- Off-lease (9 units): 323201/204/214-216/220-222/240

 

[D365]

That was an easy debate to settle!

Besides, it's not guaranteed that the WMR->Northern 323s will be getting a full repaint.

 

[the sniper]

I know you know I’m already well aware of that, but the point is if they haven’t chosen to take the ones due for Northern out of service for a repaint first (bearing in mind it’ll take a while to do them all) into Northern livery (as EMR did with 156s), instead preferring to do promotional “frother” stunts like this, then more fool them.

Nothing wrong with a frivolous new coat.

 

[150249]

Quoted from the ‘WMR 323 visit(s) to Longsight’ thread(Post #43)

Transfer to Northern (17 units): 323202/203/205-213/217-219/241-243
- Off-lease (9 units): 323201/204/214-216/220-222/240

The off-lease ones destined for scrap?

 

[365 Networker]

That looks great! I assume it will also be getting the Centro logos? I also hope they have painted the headlights black - as they were before the 2008/9 refurbishment.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

The off-lease ones destined for scrap?

Ultimately yes, unless something unexpected happens such as an increase in the numbers Northern can make use of- which would of course be subject to DfT approval. The way things are looking financially, there's probably just as much of a chance of TPE introducing loco-hauled 442s though!

(Let's see if that bypasses anyone's sarcasm filter...)

 

[43096]

Ultimately yes, unless something unexpected happens such as an increase in the numbers Northern can make use of- which would of course be subject to DfT approval. The way things are looking financially, there's probably just as much of a chance of TPE introducing loco-hauled 442s though!

(Let's see if that bypasses anyone's sarcasm filter...)

There was a suggestion that the Bolton-Wigan electrification scheme would need around 9 3-car EMUs. Nothing confirmed, though.

 

[jonesy3001]

Quoted from the ‘WMR 323 visit(s) to Longsight’ thread(Post #43)

Transfer to Northern (17 units): 323202/203/205-213/217-219/241-243
- Off-lease (9 units): 323201/204/214-216/220-222/240

They might yet go to northern as they've purchased manchester International depot at longsight that'll house nine emus.

 

[Liam L]

They might yet go to northern as they've purchased manchester International depot at longsight that'll house nine emus.

I heard something about the purchase, is that generally just for storing the 323s or Northern EMUs in general?

 

[jonesy3001]

I heard something about the purchase, is that generally just for storing the 323s or Northern EMUs in general?

Using 9 331s for now until the 323s transfer to northern.

 

[43102EMR]

I know you know I’m already well aware of that, but the point is if they haven’t chosen to take the ones due for Northern out of service for a repaint first (bearing in mind it’ll take a while to do them all) into Northern livery (as EMR did with 156s), instead preferring to do promotional “frother” stunts like this, then more fool them.

323221 was the only one of the 26 with WMR not to receive paint/bodywork during its refurb, hence why it was chosen to receive the livery.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

323221 was the only one of the 26 with WMR not to receive paint/bodywork during its refurb, hence why it was chosen to receive the livery.

Many thanks for the clarification

 

[Mollman]

The off-lease ones destined for scrap?

I guess in that livery someone might try and preserve it!

 

[LowLevel]

I'd not even describe it as frivolous personally - the late 1980s and early 1990s were a watershed moment for provincial interurban operations when the local governments finally got in on the act of sponsoring key local rail services which had been provided grudgingly or not at all by BR.

30 years later one of the most visible physical manifestations of that, the 323 EMU on the electrified Cross City line is coming to the end of it's time in service there and if you've got a train that happens to need a repaint at an inconvenient time in it's service life you may as well do something to commemorate it!

In the 1990s the Centro public transport operation in the West Midlands County was nothing short of revolutionary compared to what had gone before.

 

[Russel]

Nothing wrong with a frivolous new coat.

Where is the like button...

 

[Doveymain158]

Are they going to add the Centro logos and Regional Railways on it?

 

[Liam L]

Are they going to add the Centro logos and Regional Railways on it?

Yes

Just been posted to twitter - https://twitter.com/HunsletTheBear/status/1603112113588912132?s=20&t=Y_FZhfw_RsUK8OzrJ7v_cw

 

[Doveymain158]

Yes

Just been posted to twitter - https://twitter.com/HunsletTheBear/status/1603112113588912132?s=20&t=Y_FZhfw_RsUK8OzrJ7v_cw

Brings back memories of them on the Wolves-Bham stopper and that noise they make when starting off.

 

[childwallblues]

They might yet go to northern as they've purchased manchester International depot at longsight that'll house nine emus.

Probably to take back those 323s that currently overnight at the TPE depot at Ardwick.

 

[Andy Pacer]

Great to see, i'd heard a few months ago that this was happening but always great to see it come to fruition.