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I did like the Centro livery too, although I did also like the LM colours on 323s. It will be awesome to see, it'll be eye-catching and definitely worth a visit to Birmingham in the coming weeks!
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I did like the Centro livery too, although I did also like the LM colours on 323s. It will be awesome to see, it'll be eye-catching and definitely worth a visit to Birmingham in the coming weeks!
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Ooft. I'm going to have to seek that out!
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More images just been released
fgwrich
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Looking closely at those photos, it would appear to be a mixture of paint and vinyl. Not that it really matters - it's nice to see one of the 1990s liveries making a comeback. I'm feeling a little nostalgic seeing 221 like that complete with original Centro rings!
In a way, it's a shame there isn't any Sprinters left at Tyseley that couldn't also be "Centro'd"!
Looks very tidy indeed!
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From page 147 of the recently published Northern rail contract
Class 323,
51 (17 x 3 car) from West Midlands
2 x Units on 14th November 2022
2 x Units on 21st November 2022
2 x Units on 5th December 2022
5 x Units on 9th January 2023
4 x Units on 13th February 2023
2 x Units on 8th May 2023
Might have changed since publication, with some temporary sub-leases back
Class 323,
51 (17 x 3 car) from West Midlands
2 x Units on 14th November 2022
2 x Units on 21st November 2022
2 x Units on 5th December 2022
5 x Units on 9th January 2023
4 x Units on 13th February 2023
2 x Units on 8th May 2023
Might have changed since publication, with some temporary sub-leases back
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These 17 units have all been on lease to Northern since last year, with a sub-lease back to West Mids. So more a case of some sub-leased being extended.
Techniquest
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I'm getting nostalgic too, this livery was around for a good while after I arrived on the scene although it is more remembered for me on 150s.
As much as it would not be authentic, I do wonder what a 172 would look like in Centro livery!
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I was thinking the same as regards a 172.
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Looks great but kind of gutted they couldn’t do the light clusters
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I think it looks smart with the yellow light clusters
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It just doesn’t quite complete the original look sadly
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Can we have one in blue and grey?
It’s not meant to be 100% - even the doors aren’t as it needs to be DDA compliant etc. End of the day, I’d rather see it like this than in the horrible WMR livery.
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I didn’t say it was meant to be 100%. My original post did also say it does look great. I’m not sure what relevance the doors are as there will be a different reason for not doing the lights
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Can we deal with the rivet counters moaning that 323s never wore blue & grey?
Actually, on second thoughts, we'll just laugh at them.
The dates have been pushed back. The first won't be with Northern until 2023, with the last arriving in 2024. But that may change (again).
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+1 on this - I think it looks less bug-eyed with the yellow light clusters. If we were being pedantic, I'm not sure about the yellow strip in-between the windscreen, but I'm not going to be and I really rather like it as it is. Even the full yellow doors are an improvement over the half yellow efforts the fleet carried prior to London Midland.
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If we were going for an inauthentic livery how about WYPTE red, as a "what might've been"?Can we deal with the rivet counters moaning that 323s never wore blue & grey?
Actually, on second thoughts, we'll just laugh at them.
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You never know - Northern might decide to concentrate the 331s in the West and send some 323s over here...
My understanding is that the WMT 323s will leave the West Midlands for Northern between February and May 2024
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Sounds about right as the 730 introduction on the cross city is hoped for around that time.
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Enjoy the WMT 323s whilst you still can
Techniquest
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I have to agree, I mean I'd like the black surround on the light clusters but the yellow looks good too. I hadn't even considered the full yellow doors, so that much is not an issue as far as I'm concerned. I'd be asking questions if the doors were not yellow, it wouldn't look right to not be yellow doors!
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To quote Tenacious D, this is just a tribute...
fgwrich
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To be honest, I had actually forgotten that the yellow square on the doors was a fairly late addition to the original livery! The compliant full yellow tribute version actually, in my opinion, looks somewhat better.
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Central Trains Class 323, 323207 at Marston Green carrying the old Centro livery, 2006
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Doesn't look like it's out today but it will almost certainly be next week.
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Looking forward to getting some pics of that. Been a 323 fan since they were new. Be nice if someone brought a model of one out.
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