365s divide while on the move..

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5286274.stm

BBC said:
An investigation has begun into how a train carrying hundreds of passengers split in two on Thursday night while travelling at 145km/h (90mph).

About 700 people are thought to have been on the 1707 from King's Cross to Peterborough when it came to a sudden halt eight minutes into its journey.

The First Capital Connect train, made up of two four-car units, "decoupled" and both halves came to a halt.

A train company spokeswoman said passengers were never in danger.

She said: "It was travelling at 90mph but the trains are designed for such things to happen at those speeds and to stop safely."

She said the carriages had ended up stopping less than a carriage-length apart.

'Communication cut off'

Passenger Roslyn Magen, 57, said it was "the strangest" problem to affect the line so far.

Mrs Magen works for Lloyds TSB at London Bridge but lives near St Neots in Cambridgeshire.

She was in the second unit, to which communication with the driver was cut off.

"We sat there and sat there and there was no announcement or anything. Everybody was getting agitated because nobody was telling us what was going on."

Customer services first told her there was a "technical problem" at New Southgate, but as trains continued to pass them on the slow track, she phoned back 20 minutes later.

She was told the train had "decoupled".

'Nobody there'

"At first they (the passengers) were annoyed because there was no announcement, but once they realised what it was they saw the funny side of it," she told BBC News.

"There was no announcement because there was nobody there."

About 45 minutes later a replacement driver arrived to get the units moving again.

Larry Heyman, from First Capital Connect, said it was investigating why the coupling mechanism had failed, as the units were new stock, adding that it was very rare.

He said there was no danger of another train running into the carriages as safety systems would show they were on the track.

Both units came to an immediate halt when the carriages split, he said.

But he added: "We really would like to apologise for this, it's something that concerns us immensely - these particular units are quite new.

"Our number one concern is customer safety and the safety of everybody using the line."

The results of the company's investigation are expected to be revealed next week.
 
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class 313 said:
To WGN/FCC but 365s are not brand new, the only new thing bout them is the face and pantographs.
You did get the hint that my last post, had a touch of sarcasm?
 

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I'm assuming these trains are DOO, which I believe have to be fitted with a system that allows the signaller to broadcast messages over the train's PA via the Train's Radio,
is this not possible because of the separation - is the only "working" radio the one by the driver?

The Evening Standard made it out to be some kind of horror event, and had a quote from someone at First Capital Contempt saying they were lucky it didnt happen in a tunnel or at night because the lights come from the OLE. I always thought all the pantographs are up anyway unless the rear units are being dragged because of a fault - dont the units have emergency lighting or anything like on the Tube anyway?
 

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'Customers for St Neots, Huntingdon and Peterborough should travel in the front 4 coaches only on this service'
 

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Table 52 said:
'Customers for St Neots, Huntingdon and Peterborough should travel in the front 4 coaches only on this service'
Nah, customers should've travelled in the front 4 coaches only ;)
 

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The Southern Railway also experimented with slipping whole units but the experiments were not deemed a sucess and the proceedure was never carried out on a passenger service as far as I'm aware.

It would have improved the London to Littlehampton journeytime if we could have split from the hastings section at 90 mph whilst travelling over the Ouse viaduct!
 

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It would have improved the London to Littlehampton journeytime if we could have split from the hastings section at 90 mph whilst travelling over the Ouse viaduct!
Not by the time the second unit gets tripped by the TPWS for going past a red ;)
 

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When did we ever start speaking in km/h with mph in brackets when speaking about the British railways? Do they honestly think the people of this country understand 145 km/h more than 90mph. It's all about look and style with the BBC, it seems to be 'hip' to speak in metric where imperial is commonly used.

Rant over :razz:
 

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Oh i see, meh i dont see why it should of been deleted but il bet il be told soon :P
that mkaes two of us matey......

I was given a reason as to why my 'humerous' post in 'House for sale' thread was deleted (thank you lord Mojo, i am forver gratefull :roll:), but no reason for this deletion.........
 

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that mkaes two of us matey......

I was given a reason as to why my 'humerous' post in 'House for sale' thread was deleted (thank you lord Mojo, i am forver gratefull :roll:), but no reason for this deletion.........
Perhaps because it condoned unsafe activity involving railway tresspass.
 
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