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8-car services to King's Lynn after completion of platform lengthening work

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Put the DOO kit at the 8 car board and four cars can stop there too even though it might be a bit of a walk from the station entrance. Unlike putting it at the four car board but 8 carriages can't call.
iirc the platforms were lengthened northwards from the level crossings, so any DOO equipment at the 8-car mark would require the existing equipment to be moved and therefore £££.

Surely better spending the dollar elsewhere given that 387s/700s have fitted cameras, and 365s are unlikely to take much (if any) stopping work north of Royston in the future.
 
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A bit pointless providing it if you can only stop in one direction...
Put the DOO kit at the 8 car board and four cars can stop there too even though it might be a bit of a walk from the station entrance. Unlike putting it at the four car board but 8 carriages can't call.

Well no, 365s shouldn't stop there anymore since the timetable was recast with 700s.
365s only used to be 4 car on services that stopped, and provision was made (using the clearest platform monitors ive ever seen!) for 4 car 365s to use the lengthened platforms on the down for the short time beforehand.

As the future was 8 car 700s with in cab monitors (and SDO for the Up platform), there seemed no need to place a second camera (and monitor) to cover 8 car 365s.

365s now only go to Peterborough or Baldock in normal circumstances.
 

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According to "Railfuture Passenger" on Twitter (looks like it's an official account that can be trusted, but I find the name a bit odd so am not totally sure), all Great Northern services to King's Lynn will be 8-car from December. https://twitter.com/RailfuturePsngr/status/1298951417172983809

GTR have confirmed that *all* @GNRailUK trains to King's Lynn will be eight cars long from December.

Business case for funding station work was for peak times only but it will be *all* GN trains. Confirmed on GTR webinar today.

Then a random individual replied to the thread to say it will be most, not all, without giving any source for that claim:

It'll be "nearly all" (majority?), there will still be a handful of 4 carriage services in the off-peak to get units in the right locations, but fair to say the "normal" for King's Lynn will be eight carriages from the December timetable in peak and most of the off-peak
 

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From December the significant majority of trains to Kings Lynn will be 8 car 387. It will become the norm, rather than the exception. There will be one or two 4 cars still, as that person notes, but this will be at start/end of the day.

Great Northern will be leasing one more 365, too.
 

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Presumably so, which must reduce faff. Not sure how many GN workings south of Cambridge are 12-car?

Most peak-hour trains are 12-car south of Cambridge, which generally means the corresponding inbound or outbound working at the London end too (though three morning services detach a 4-car at King’s Cross which then go to Hornsey, and re-emerge as a 12-car Peterborough for the evening peak). In addition one 12-car starts and finishes at Hornsey.

Weekends see a different arrangement with 12-cars targeted towards popular Cambridge day trip times.

There’s a certain amount of slack in the 387 fleet, however one presumes this may mean a reduction in the number of 387s to Peterborough. Currently 2x 12-cars run each peak, meaning 6x units stable overnight at Peterborough. With GN already having 2x 365 over what was originally planned, it would seem logical that 1x 365 on top of that would allow one of the peak 3x387 Peterborough services to change to 3x365. This would also mean it would be no longer possible to provide the full weekend Peterborough fast service using 387s stabled at Peterborough as the current timetable does.
 

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From December the significant majority of trains to Kings Lynn will be 8 car 387. It will become the norm, rather than the exception. There will be one or two 4 cars still, as that person notes, but this will be at start/end of the day.

Great Northern will be leasing one more 365, too.
Such good news, will help with social distancing too.
 

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It appears the new Kings Lynn stabling siding is now complete, presumably to start being used from December.

Does anyone know the official name / designation of the new siding?
 

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£27m lets the train take the strain with eight-carriages and 2,000 extra seats into Cambridge from the Fens​

https://www.elystandard.co.uk/network-rail-unveils-improved-services-through-fens-1-6957904 says

Passengers will benefit from a £27m upgrade of the King’s Lynn to Cambridge line from Sunday when an eight-carriage service begins​

With platform extensions now built, it will mean an improved service for Littleport and Waterbeach.

“As well as extending platform two to 167-metres, the upgrade at Littleport included providing step free access to platform one,” said MP Steve Barclay.

Over 2,000 extra seats will be added to morning trains arriving in Cambridge. This will make it easier for passengers to socially distance and, when passengers return post-pandemic, help passengers find a seat on busier services.

Mr Barclay was at Littleport to see a trial run of the new carriages that left Cambridge at 11:37 and arrived at King’s Lynn at 12:31, to the delight of local supporters and representatives of the rail industry.
Network Rail has built a new siding outside King’s Lynn station for Great Northern’s longer trains, and extended platforms at Littleport and Waterbeach to allow eight-carriage services to stop there.

Previously services for all stations to King’s Lynn had only four carriages beyond Cambridge, and trains turning around at Ely had eight carriages but could not stop at Waterbeach. The hourly service at Waterbeach will now be half hourly.
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Network Rail says the Fen Line has seen significant improvements over recent years to provide better services and improved connectivity for passengers, including the introduction of new air-conditioned Class 387 Great Northern trains and the opening of Cambridge North station, both in 2017.

Currently passenger numbers remain historically low but operators believe that by providing more space on trains at this time it will help passengers feel more confident about travelling on the network.
 

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It appears the new Kings Lynn stabling siding is now complete, presumably to start being used from December.

Does anyone know the official name / designation of the new siding?

The latest Quail map simply marks it as "EMU Stabling Siding"
 

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It appears the new Kings Lynn stabling siding is now complete, presumably to start being used from December.

Does anyone know the official name / designation of the new siding?

The latest Quail map simply marks it as "EMU Stabling Siding"
The new siding is simply called 'Kings Lynn Stabling Siding'
 
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