NatB
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I travel with SWR from Salisbury to London and was shocked to see my season ticket cost has increased by 9.5%, is this right or because they are all wearing masks have they taken to highway robbery?
I travel with SWR from Salisbury to London and was shocked to see my season ticket cost has increased by 9.5%, is this right or because they are all wearing masks have they taken to highway robbery?
+7.97%I am, last year it was £5460.60 this year I am being quoted £5896, an additional £36/month, as you probably know SWR do not run the greatest service so I think it is a bit of a cheek to say the least
Annual season ticket fares are only ever in multiples of four whole pounds, so that made me check and the actual fare until 28•FBY•21 was £5,748. So the fare has in fact gone up 2.57%.I am, last year it was £5460.60 this year I am being quoted £5896, an additional £36/month, as you probably know SWR do not run the greatest service so I think it is a bit of a cheek to say the least
Farnborough Stns to London Terminals has gone from £4,732 to £4,856, an increase of 2.62%.There must be some good reductions somewhere to make the average regulated fare increase 2.6%. Not Farnborough-Waterloo for sure, which will be my commute once the office opens again. That's gone up by 5.9%!
I've not yet bought a season from Farnborough, having moved house three days after the first lockdown began, but did previously look up the price which I thought was almost exactly #4000. Maybe that was the price from before the January 2020 and I'm unfairly accusing SWR of two year's increases in one! Nearly everything was ready for the move to take place before then, but as often happens the last details dragged on and on.Annual season ticket fares are only ever in multiples of four whole pounds, so that made me check and the actual fare until 28•FBY•21 was £5,748. So the fare has in fact gone up 2.57%.
£5,460.60 is exactly 95% of £5,748, so I suspect you got a passenger charter discount on renewal due to either excessive delays or cancellations on the line, or some other class of discount for some reason. SWR doesn’t do these discounts any more – instead you may claim for delays of 15 minutes and upwards trip by trip.
Farnborough Stns to London Terminals has gone from £4,732 to £4,856, an increase of 2.62%.
Edit: £4,128 to £4,236 for the more route Not Via Reading, also 2.62%.
Yes, the 2019 price for Not Via Reading was £4,016; it may be that price which you are recalling.I've not yet bought a season from Farnborough, having moved house three days after the first lockdown began, but did previously look up the price which I thought was almost exactly #4000. Maybe that was the price from before the January 2020 and I'm unfairly accusing SWR of two year's increases in one! Nearly everything was ready for the move to take place before then, but as often happens the last details dragged on and on.
Incidentally, Farnborough-London surely has the most number of different geogaphic routes of any flow?Yes, the 2019 price for Not Via Reading was £4,016; it may be that price which you are recalling.
Incidentally, Farnborough-London surely has the most number of different geogaphic routes of any flow?
In descending price order (for the season tickets):
AAA Frimley
Any Permitted
AAA Bentley
AAA Farnham
AAA Ash Vale
AAA Camberley
AAA Aldershot
AAA Sunningdale
Not via Reading
Several of the AAAs are permitted routes on the Any Permitted/not via Reading anyway!
Fascinating. Probably deserves a thread of it's own.Isnt there also an "AAA FRLY not RDG" ?
I am, last year it was £5460.60 this year I am being quoted £5896, an additional £36/month, as you probably know SWR do not run the greatest service so I think it is a bit of a cheek to say the least
£22.69 a day equivalent compared to the walk up £89.80 anytime return...
So maybe they realised it was too low a price to allow for part time seasons…
It’s a popular argument that rail tickets in general are expensive here compared to elsewhere in Europe, but this is due to governmental policy around subsidy and taxation. I doubt there is any appetite to change this.Incidentally our seasons are, all things considered rather expensive compared to those found elsewhere in Europe.
Isn't that the case for a whole range of items though, bread is cheap in France, sausages in Germany, Pizza in Italy and the Strudel costs peanuts in AustriaWell plenty of industries give loyalty incentives. Also the SOR fares are ridiculously overpriced in the first place. Your plan would lead the railway to ruin.
Incidentally our seasons are, all things considered rather expensive compared to those found elsewhere in Europe.
Hardly comparable - food is affordable in all European countries.Isn't that the case for a whole range of items though, bread is cheap in France, sausages in Germany, Pizza in Italy and the Strudel costs peanuts in Austria
Only the direct cost. Taxation tends to be higher to cover the difference. In this country the preference seems to be for higher disposable income and poorer public services.Whereas most of the above countries have better public transport than the UK and yet the cost to the end user is, on average, much less than it is here.
Yes but the direct cost is what influences whether people take the train or drive. If we want to give the train a fighting chance of mitigating the car led recovery, fares will have to drop.Only the direct cost. Taxation tends to be higher to cover the difference. In this country the preference seems to be for higher disposable income and poorer public services.