90024 going into GNER livery??

[jonathanelli]

Is it true that 90024 is getting repainted into GNER livery and if so who owns the loco at the moment?

 

[JonathanH]

Is it true that 90024 is getting repainted into GNER livery and if so who owns the loco at the moment?

Do you have a source for thinking that it would be?

Clearly it was once in those colours but there is no reason for that happening again. Who owns the rights to paint a locomotive in GNER colours in any case?

90024

90024 heading a late morning King's Cross to Leeds GNER service passing a hazey Welwyn North. Despite being the only example to be given GNER blue livery, this engine made only a limited number of appearances on the East Coast route at that time.

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Seems unlikely.

 

[jonathanelli]

Do you have a source for thinking that it would be?

Clearly it was once in those colours but there is no reason for that happening again. Who owns the rights to paint a locomotive in GNER colours in any case?

90024

90024 heading a late morning King's Cross to Leeds GNER service passing a hazey Welwyn North. Despite being the only example to be given GNER blue livery, this engine made only a limited number of appearances on the East Coast route at that time.

bincombe.smugmug.com

Seems unlikely.

There was a post on the lack of yellow warning panels page on Facebook will try and get the photo and post on here

Here’s the photo credit goes to Stephen allmond as it’s not my photo

 

[JonathanH]

There was a post on the lack of yellow warning panels page on Facebook will try and get the photo and post on here

Here’s the photo credit goes to Stephen allmond as it’s not my photo

Are you sure that isn't a picture of it being painted in GNER colours the first time? I can quite imagine the yellow paint going on after the base blue colours.

 

[Domh245]

Are you sure that isn't a picture of it being painted in GNER colours the first time? I can quite imagine the yellow paint going on after the base blue colours.

Indeed - that's the sensible way to paint such a livery. The picture itself looks like it was taken on film (then developed and scanned), being quite grainy and having a few dirt marks. If it were being repainted at the present day the picture would look a lot clearer than that

 

[JonathanH]

We can also conclude that since 90024 is at Crewe and DB Cargo appear to do their repaints at Toton it isn't being repainted at the moment.

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False alarm i think.

 

[hexagon789]

There was a post on the lack of yellow warning panels page on Facebook will try and get the photo and post on here

Here’s the photo credit goes to Stephen allmond as it’s not my photo

The exact same photo on Flickr is dated 28/05/1999, so definitely not a repaint.

We can also conclude that since 90024 is at Crewe and DB Cargo appear to do their repaints at Toton it isn't being repainted at the moment.

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False alarm i think.

That and given the photo is from 1999!

 

[DanNCL]

A repaint likely is on the cards for 90024 given that it currently carries an expired advertising livery for Malcom Logisitics, although I definitely wouldn't be certain of it going into GNER livery.

Are you sure that isn't a picture of it being painted in GNER colours the first time? I can quite imagine the yellow paint going on after the base blue colours.

That's what I think, the photo quality looks quite different to what we'd expect from cameras today, but looks very much like the standard photo quality from the late 1990s/early 2000s.

 

[hexagon789]

That's what I think, the photo quality looks quite different to what we'd expect from cameras today, but looks very much like the standard photo quality from the late 1990s/early 2000s.

Probably because it IS from the late-1990s.

Somebody's just pinched it off Flickr

 

[fgwrich]

Indeed - that's the sensible way to paint such a livery. The picture itself looks like it was taken on film (then developed and scanned), being quite grainy and having a few dirt marks. If it were being repainted at the present day the picture would look a lot clearer than that

I agree, I’m sure that photo has been in Rail Magazine at the time. The yellow / greeny tinge doesn’t say that it is a new photo to me.
Surely the easiest way to establish how recent it is - where is 90024 hiding at the moment? If it is a Toton, it could be undergoing a repaint. Anywhere else, there’s your answer.

Probably because it IS from the late-1990s.

Somebody's just pinched it off Flickr

Yep.

A similar photo of the same loco from the 28/05/99.

90024 Repaint at Toton

Finishing touches being applied to 90024 inside the paint shop at Toton on 28/05/99. I was visiting in a press capacity but the loco wasn't finished. Luckily I was invited back the next day and sure enough it was photographed sparkling in the sunshine at Toton, after a driver had eventually been...

flic.kr

 

[hexagon789]

A similar photo of the same loco from the 28/05/99.

Very similar, save the bloke doing the painting.

 

[XAM2175]

The yellow / greeny tinge doesn’t say that it is a new photo to me.

The greenish shift is caused by using daylight-balanced film with fluorescent lighting. If you set a digital camera to daylight balance rather than auto the same thing would happen.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

It's obviously confirmed as a false alarm at this point, but it did get me thinking...

If it were true (or if it is indeed planned to be painted in GNER colours despite the "evidence" being debunked) would this be the first example of a privatisation-era livery being applied for heritage/nostalgia reasons?

 

[fgwrich]

It's obviously confirmed as a false alarm at this point, but it did get me thinking...

If it were true (or if it is indeed planned to be painted in GNER colours despite the "evidence" being debunked) would this be the first example of a privatisation-era livery being applied for heritage/nostalgia reasons?

It's already in progress - 87035 at Crewe Heritage Centre is currently undergoing a repaint into Virgin Trains Red / Black, while there will also be a CIG unit (currently undergoing restoration and hybrid-ising) which will go into the post privatisation version of South West Trains as well:

400 Series Preservation Group | Shepherdswell

400 Series Preservation Group, Shepherdswell with Coldred, Dover. 2,091 likes · 873 talking about this · 1 was here. Official Facebook page of the 400 Series Preservation Group.

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[43096]

It's already in progress - 87035 at Crewe Heritage Centre is currently undergoing a repaint into Virgin Trains Red / Black.

And...
Didn't a preserved 31 (466?) get a new coat of EWS red/gold. 47376 has received a coat of Freightliner "red triangle" branded triple grey, though that livery spanned the privatisation process from memory?

 

[61653 HTAFC]

It's already in progress - 87035 at Crewe Heritage Centre is currently undergoing a repaint into Virgin Trains Red / Black.

Might have known that VT would be the first... at least of Passenger TOCs. now that I think of it, isn't/wasn't there a 50 in LoadHaul?

 

[156444]

I agree, I’m sure that photo has been in Rail Magazine at the time. The yellow / greeny tinge doesn’t say that it is a new photo to me.
Surely the easiest way to establish how recent it is - where is 90024 hiding at the moment? If it is a Toton, it could be undergoing a repaint. Anywhere else, there’s your answer.


Yep.

A similar photo of the same loco from the 28/05/99.

90024 Repaint at Toton

Finishing touches being applied to 90024 inside the paint shop at Toton on 28/05/99. I was visiting in a press capacity but the loco wasn't finished. Luckily I was invited back the next day and sure enough it was photographed sparkling in the sunshine at Toton, after a driver had eventually been...

flic.kr

I saw the Malcolm 90 at Crewe Electric yesterday, admittedly a brief sighting from the Chester train but enough to say it's still in Malcolm livery.

 

[matt]

Might have known that VT would be the first... at least of Passenger TOCs. now that I think of it, isn't/wasn't there a 50 in LoadHaul?

50035 was in Loadhaul a few years ago. 31466 has had EWS reapplied to it (I'm travelling behind it as I type this)

 

[pdeaves]

Might have known that VT would be the first... at least of Passenger TOCs. now that I think of it, isn't/wasn't there a 50 in LoadHaul?

Just to clarify for anyone who might think otherwise, LoadHaul livery was non-authentic for class 50 (though still fits the general statement 'example of a privatisation-era livery being applied for heritage/nostalgia reasons'. One could debate whether it is pre- or post-privatisation colours, too.

 

[Iskra]

Might have known that VT would be the first... at least of Passenger TOCs. now that I think of it, isn't/wasn't there a 50 in LoadHaul?

KWVR have an 08 in EWS and have had for years.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

KWVR have an 08 in EWS and have had for years.

Did they apply it though? Or was it in EWS when they got it and they've just kept it tidy and touched it up when required?

 

[Townsend Hook]

Did they apply it though? Or was it in EWS when they got it and they've just kept it tidy and touched it up when required?

The loco in question is 08993, it arrived at the K&WVR in very faded EWS livery and it later was repainted into the same livery. Very smart it looks, too!