Looks like Stowmarket to me, would make sense for the units coming off of the Bury St. Edmunds line going towards Ipswich.
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rdlover777
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i do wonder if GA will name any of the flirts after famous people from the area these will serve
delticdave
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Any thoughts / info re 755 operated services on Thursday &/or Friday this week?
TIA for any info, Dc.
ashkeba
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Who would want to be called a famous flirt?
fat_boy_pete
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Another delivery through Colchester this morning. 3 x755/3's by the looks of it.
Boris Johnson?
dk1
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The best bets from Norwich would be...
Cambridge 09:40 15:40 18:40
Lowestoft 14:05 19:02
Yarmouth 10:36 12:36 17:36
evergreenadam
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Do the 755s provide enhanced capacity into Cambridge during the morning peak? How does the seating capacity of a three car unit compare with existing three car units?
The Norwich-Cambridge trains use a 4 car 755 which has 202 full size seats and 27 flip up seats (https://anonw.com/2019/08/06/my-first-rides-in-a-class-755-train/ ).
The Norwich-Cambridge trains usually use a 3 car 170 has 180 seats (Page 133 of https://assets.publishing.service.g.../interim-franchise-agreement-direct-award.pdf ).
A 3 car 755 has 144 normal seats and 23 flip up ones (167 in total). A 2 car 170 has 110 seats.
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Wivenswold
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Nice, though there's an even shorter verb that I frequently used for him.Boris Johnson?
delticdave
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Dank u wel, Mijnheer. I'll set the alarm tonight for an early start tomorrow.
(Car to Sandon P&R, bus to C/ford, train to Naarg, round trip to /from Sheringham, 14:05 L/stoft, 15:40 Cambridge, 19:00 to C'ford, then bus & car.........)
Things I do for a hobby......
Cheers, DC.
dk1
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Haha, you just need to tick a few Wetherspoons along the way & you'll be as mad as I am.
Saw a 755 on the 1710 departure from Cambridge on Tuesday evening; full and standing all the way through...in spite of being right behind two previous departures towards Ely (1701 XC and 1706 GN).
The capacity of these units is going to get eaten up very quickly, I suspect.
306024
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The Ely - Cambridge commute has grown out of all proportion in recent years. Meanwhile the timetable has evolved piecemeal with different companies doing the best with whatever rolling stock they have to hand at peak times, bearing in mind all the constraints they have to work to elsewhere on the network.
Yes it's easy to think a 4 car 755 must provide greater capacity, but as the figures show it is not as great as may be imagined. Nevertheless is a welcome step in the right direction, and eventually a 720 between Ely and Cambridge will help too.
Yes it's easy to think a 4 car 755 must provide greater capacity, but as the figures show it is not as great as may be imagined. Nevertheless is a welcome step in the right direction, and eventually a 720 between Ely and Cambridge will help too.
Carlgoss
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Sorry should have said .. Stowmarket UP platform. So the Bimodes will switch there then?.. exciting.
fat_boy_pete
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Thank you for clarifying.
*If* the provisional December timetables in RealTimeTrains are correct, we are losing the 18:22 Greater Anglia shuttle from Cambridge to Ely, so any extra capacity on the 755's in that hour specifically will very likely already be taken from day 1.
That said, there's going to be a lot of passenger load re-balancing between the various different Cambridge-Ely services anyway in December, because RTT says that some of the evening peak services to Norwich will start to call at Waterbeach, which will spread the load between Great Northern and Greater Anglia. Also if they start from Stansted rather than Cambridge, there'll be a similar re-balancing with CrossCountry. It feels like Greater Anglia could be gaining a *lot* of passengers from other TOCs between Cambridge and Ely just as a result of the new timetable, before you even factor in those who want to switch to the shiny new train!
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eastdyke
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They already have, by way of the GA only fares!
eg GA anytime day return is £5.10 vice £7.30
GA annual season is £1020 vice £1292. ..........
It's about the money!
rdlover777
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I hope they run the 755s in doubles then during peak time
dk1
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Not possible due to platform lengths across the Brecks.
You would have an entire unit off the platform, which is a big no.
An normal Off Peak day return is £4.60 between Ely and Cambridge. It is valid from 8.45. If you can wait until the 9.38, a Greater Anglia Off Peak day return to Cambridge is £2.50. On the 10.38 I can use a Club 50 railcard and its £2.00!
306024
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And why would you drag a unit all that way (and back) when the high demand is for a relatively short part of the overall journey? Better to run a unit just between Ely and Cambridge and get more trips out of it if possible.
hooverboy
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you have to remember that norwich to camidge is the 3 car set if you are lucky. if not it'll be a 2 car 156/170.
the 755/4 flirt still works out as a 25% increase(50 seats) which I agree,is very much needed on that line.
Also there are adequate 755/4's to make the 4 car set a permanent fixture here,which was not the case with the turbostars and sprinters.
755/3 will be adequate on the wherry and bittern lines once the holiday season is over, which would give an extra couple of carriages/4 car sets on norwich-cambridge if needed.
hooverboy
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may well do.
if it turns out to be mega popular the going to a 30 min service rather than hourly wouldn't go amiss, in which case you could probably work it with 755/3's.
the present hourly norwich-cambridge is usually pretty loaded anyway with the current 3 car set,2 car is definitely standing room only.
hopefully GA have an option to order a couple more should the need arise.I would guess they would like a year or so to see how the new schedule beds in before making that kind of investment..after all it's already very substantial upgrade for the branch lines.
abellio as a group might think on this one!..I've just taken a look at EMR regional future rolling stock and it looks like 37 (28*17x+ 9*156)sets ,versus 61 presently.looks a bit on the light side if you ask me...about 10-15 sets short by the look of it.
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dk1
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Let's hope the two extra Stadlers do become available. We lose 170207 & 170270 to Wales from this weekend. De-branding already done.
Breckland line is (or was) almost always a 3 car 170. Only seems to be a 2 car 170 or 15x if something has gone wrong.