Yes i noticed that yesterday.
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Milo T.K
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Been seeing quite a few 755s at liv street recently aswell
dk1
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Stood in for 745 non-availability on the Ni90.
Stood in for a 745 on the 0800 Norwich to London Ni90, you then caught the "normal speed" return journey.
Ironically, a 745 (being shorter length) would have a decent shout at a speed record given an (unlikely) clear run?
dk1
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745s are 12-cars.
It would have worked the 08:00 Ni90 East Anglian up beforehand.
fat_boy_pete
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I saw a pair of 755/4's in Colchester platform 6 on Sunday evening. Have they been passed for passenger service in multiple yet? If so, a pair would be a much better substitute for a missing 745.
dk1
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No, I think we are a while off that yet. They can run in multiple as ECS but only in diesel mode. Only time you’ll see them pan up together is when stabling or on the daily test runs.
dk1
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Most welcome. Hope you didn’t suffer a nosebleed.
fat_boy_pete
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Gosh, what on earth is stopping multiple on electric. Is there still a software issue or is it mechanical due to two pantographs?
dk1
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Mainly software from what I gather. 100mph running on test works fine with both pans up but will always be the furthest possible apart. Not sure if this prevents two 3-cars operating at all as that’s then not an option with them.
Sorry, due to the acceleration. Shame it wasn’t a 755/3 but that wouldn’t help with loadings.
dk1
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Haha, easy done. Two hours doesn’t seem long enough.
dk1
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The 08:00 up was F&S from Norwich when formed by a 755 two weeks ago. Many decided to join the 08:03 instead for space, 1st class & catering.
StephenHunter
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Back when Anglia Railways was a thing, three-car Norwich services using 170s were rather common.
317666
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And more recently under ONE/NXEA when single 170s ran through to Liverpool Street from Lowestoft or Peterborough.
Bringback309s
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Don't forget the class 170 Norwich to Basingstoke!
dk1
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That rarely warranted much more than a 153. To think catering was provided on most, some of which took less than £20 on a 10hr shift. There was a crazy idea hatched to get the guards to man the buffet counter too.
I remember that service. The timetable wasn't evenly spaced out.
Anyway I was caught up with at 755 at Liverpool Street and let it go. No first class or catering as quite rightly @dk1 points out. We need a few more 745 to be converted into mainline units with first class and cafe bar. It's annoying when paying a premium fare that the advertised service cannot be provided.
dk1
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First class conversion is a possibility but no more cafe bars.
The Basingstoke was not only unevenly spaced but sometimes only reached Stratford north of the river. It had to fit into the unit diagrams & priority was their use on mainline GEML services & those required for Hull Trains.
samuelmorris
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As someone that lives on the GEML and pre-pandemic used to regularly commute to near Woking, it's kind of a shame really. If that service still existed today operated by 755s I'd probably have used it over driving. But even though I don't mind the tube changes, the 40 minute bus journey at the Woking end pushes the journey over the edge of what's comfortably doable when the other three train journeys are considered.
Anyway, back on topic, is there not likely to be any long-term mainline work for the 755s if the through services to Lowestoft never happen? I was under the impression that even with those services going ahead there was a quite a substantial number of spare 755s lying around. Presumably without them there'd be needlessly many?
Anyway, back on topic, is there not likely to be any long-term mainline work for the 755s if the through services to Lowestoft never happen? I was under the impression that even with those services going ahead there was a quite a substantial number of spare 755s lying around. Presumably without them there'd be needlessly many?
dk1
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Not really that many spare. With the reduced timetable on the main line & 2/3 required for the test trains (SX) it’s sometimes been a struggle to provide enough for service. Don’t forget that they are planned to run in multiple (whenever it gets cleared) on some Norwich-London (was originally Ni90s) duties & also the planned hourly Peterborough- Ipswich. The small fuel tanks means several come out of traffic during the day to refuel too.
StephenHunter
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Aren't they looking to put 720s on Stansted services instead of 745/1s?
dk1
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Yes that’s the plan. We don’t know yet if it will be a sub-fleet more suited to airport traffic.