Advance ticket stock returning?

[Greeby]

Earlier this week, the latest edition of the Manual became viewable. I noticed in the section which displays ticket stock types that a new page for Advance Purchase stock (RSP7599/201, to the same design as the old Aptis type) had been added.

Anyone out in booking office-land heard anything more about this?

 

[bb21]

This is interesting. They might want to change the colour of it though, given that season ticket stock is now blue.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

First I've heard of it, wouldn't surprise me if they did reintroduce it though, they could put the basic conditions on it if they did, or is that too forward thinking?

 

[yorkie]

How would this work with TVMs?

 

[AlterEgo]

This is interesting. They might want to change the colour of it though, given that season ticket stock is now blue.

Indeed - although I understand it's a different shade, isn't it?

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Advance stock used to be dark blue and looking at the FRPP, the stock image is also dark blue. I noted the reservation detail section on the back also, presumably if advance stock returns, this is an error as all Tis print that currently.

 

[snail]

First I've heard of it, wouldn't surprise me if they did reintroduce it though, they could put the basic conditions on it if they did, or is that too forward thinking?

Careful, that's a dangerous accusation!

If it happens it has to be better for the hard of thinking to have the train and seat reservations on the same ticket. You would hope it should come with the warning that it is valid only on that train and no other.

 

[WillPS]

How would this work with TVMs?

Some TVMs have 2 printers, they'd just need to be reprogrammed to only use the correct one. Maybe some of the others have the capacity to be equipped with a second?

 

[codenamecuebal]

Some TVMs have 2 printers, they'd just need to be reprogrammed to only use the correct one. Maybe some of the others have the capacity to be equipped with a second?

Or in the case of hopper-fed machines, just have a second hopper with advance stock, and instruct the machine to pull from that instead of common stock
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i'm going out today, ill ask the person behind the desk if they know anything about it

 

[transportphoto]

Can anyone please pull the image from the FRPP and upload it to here?

 

[AlterEgo]

Can anyone please pull the image from the FRPP and upload it to here?

Hope this works....

 

[WillPS]

I can only see this being a good thing. Can current printers print on the reverse of the ticket?

 

[hairyhandedfool]

They are attached to this post

 

[lemonic]

The problem with that ticket design is that tickets purchased in advance are not necessarily 'Advance' tickets! (Unless they print Off Peak and Anytime tickets purchased in advance on the blue ticket stock but then you wonder what the point is!)

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Advance tickets would be the only tickets printed on them as they are the only 'advance purchase' tickets.

AFAIAA ticket printers can only print on one side of ticket stock.

 

[codenamecuebal]

Advance tickets would be the only tickets printed on them as they are the only 'advance purchase' tickets.

AFAIAA ticket printers can only print on one side of ticket stock.

You can buy lots of tickets in advance, not necessariley just Advance type, but if their an advance purchase (i.e. booked online) I assume they will be printed on these.

 

[AlterEgo]

You can buy lots of tickets in advance, not necessariley just Advance type, but if their an advance purchase (i.e. booked online) I assume they will be printed on these.

I think this type of ticket stock might only be available at stations, and/or possibly through online/telesales fulfilment if the tickets are posted.

As Yorkie earlier intimated, I don't think TVMs will carry this stock.

 

[hairyhandedfool]

You can buy lots of tickets in advance, not necessariley just Advance type, but if their an advance purchase (i.e. booked online) I assume they will be printed on these.

Before 'Simplification' there were two phrases used to describe tickets, 'Advance Purchase' and 'Walk Up' fares.

'Walk Up' fares were the likes of Saver, Super Saver, Cheap Day, Standard Open, Standard Day, etc.

'Advance Purchase' fares were the likes of Advance, Super Advance, Apex, Value Advance, etc.

'Advance Purchase' has not previously meant 'tickets bought in advance'. (just like 'Single line working' is not the same as 'Working of a single line')

 

[Clip]

Modern TVMs - The like you find on chiltern and such have the capacity for 3 if not 4 printers. One of these could easily be a dedicated 'advance stock' printer.

 

[All Line Rover]

I am mildly concerned by the image of the reverse of these "blue" tickets, which seems to list each train. Would "&Connections" trains be listed here, or not?

 

[hairyhandedfool]

Until instructions are filtered through and stock distributed, no-one can say for definate. However given that '& Connections' appears in the route and currently no reservation coupons say '& Connections' on them, I'd say the only place you are likely to see '& Connections' is in the route.

 

[AlterEgo]

Modern TVMs - The like you find on chiltern and such have the capacity for 3 if not 4 printers. One of these could easily be a dedicated 'advance stock' printer.

I didn't know that. It will be interesting to see if it does appear in TVMs though.

 

[snail]

AFAIAA ticket printers can only print on one side of ticket stock.

So if it is introduced to TVMs then the reservations would probably still be on separate coupons, as now. Oh well.

 

[bb21]

I am mildly concerned by the image of the reverse of these "blue" tickets, which seems to list each train. Would "&Connections" trains be listed here, or not?

I would imagine that they work in the same way as the original RSP4599/201 stock, and "no" is the answer.

 

[Clip]

I didn't know that. It will be interesting to see if it does appear in TVMs though.

Indeed. The idea being that with 3 on the go one prints your outward one your return and one your reciept(should you request one) so you dont have to wait for them one at a time like you do with Southeastern TVMs so its speeded up.And the hoppers dont have to be filled up quite so often

 

[bnm]

These images are not new in NFM10. The same entry showing pictures of RSP 7599/201 is in the current NFM09.

 

[OwlMan]

These images are not new in NFM10. The same entry showing pictures of RSP 7599/201 is in the current NFM09.

The OP did not say it was in NFM10. He said it was the latest amendments. Look at the date at the bottom of the page

Peter

 

[WillPS]

When was this stock withdrawn?

 

[Flamingo]

If these do come in, with the trains listed on the back, it would make life SOOOOO much easier!

Please let it be true!

 

[bb21]

If these do come in, with the trains listed on the back, it would make life SOOOOO much easier!

Please let it be true!

I'm sure that most travellers picked at random from the street will be pleased that it will then be one ticket that they have to worry about rather than ticket + reservation coupon.