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"America as the last man standing"

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The following is a speech by Geert Wilders, a Dutch Member of Parliament to a conference in Jerusalem.

I found this in an Australian forum and thought it had a lot of relevance to you guys, and I am wondering if anyone can say whether this is scaremongering or there is some truth to it.



"America as the last man standing"


'In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: who lost Europe?'

Here is the speech of Geert Wilders(Dutch Member of Parliament.), Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem.


Dear friends,

Thank you very much for inviting me.

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.


First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.


The Europe you know is changing.

You have probably seen the landmarks.. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.

All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.


There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: 'we rule'.


Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille, and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.



In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.


Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils.. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.


In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.



In England Sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan.


Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run from the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II.. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.


A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.


Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.


The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept Sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.


Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies, they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.


Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.


The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.


Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology.. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is Sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.


Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.


Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West. It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.


Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties.

We simply do not have the right to do so.
 
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Just right-wingers objecting to better rights for non-white citizens and members of the LGBT community.

Sharia law is not part of the English/Welsh legal system. There might be Sharia "courts" but they are merely arbitrators, as in any civilised society there are arbitrators and tribunals outside of the mainstream legal system.

There might be 'Muslim' neighbourhoods, many of them next to mosques, but is that really surprising? In Birmingham most people who I can only assume are Muslim live in the most ramshackle, run down parts of town.

I do agree with what he has said about Islam, I find it completely repulsive; more so than any other religion, but the only thing that is in danger of changing our society is socialist politicians restricting our human rights in the name of "terrorism" and watching/listening to our every move in the name of "security."
 

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Islam is not itself repulsive, any more than Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism or atheism. The central tenets of all those religions are based on peaceful co-existence with your fellow men. Where there are problems, in all religions (including atheism) are where interpreters of the basic tenets seek to impose mediaeval values on others as a means of control and holding power and prestige. And one of these mediaeval values is that "the others" are "the enemy". So atheists try to stop the examination of creationism, islamic fundamentalists seek to prevent democratic elections, militant Christians find fancy excuses to ban gays and women priests, and Jews hold on to the promised land. Now, if these religious arguments could be held within the religious establishments, then little damage would be done. But Mojo is right - secular governments are buying in to the mediaeval picture of "the enemy" and using it to prevent the free and friendly exchange between cultures. And THAT is the mark of a truly modern civilisation, and it is that that our governments are doing their darndest (unwittingly perhaps) to throw away.
 

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...it is ironic that the advert at the top of this thread when I opened it was for "Meeting Muslim Singles Worldwide":lol:
 
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lol at the advert

but what a lot of Muslims seem to forget is that in the qu'ran (I can't spell it and its not in my spellchecker) it clearly states to be tolerant of other religions and what do they do, blow them up. a lot of Muslims are OK people, some of my mates are Muslim, and they would never dream of blowing people up for their religion, they say that terrorists are a disgrace to their religion, and I personally am not religious and I would rather be in a Christian country than an Islamic country because Christians are generally nicer people
 

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Not as funny as the thread about a DHL van being hit by a train at a Level crossing, with a DHL ad at the top!
 

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The speech refers to America being the last 'bastion' of the spread of mass immigration of Muslims. With a population in excess of 300million, there could be 25million and still not a huge chunk of the population, but that is still a lot of people.

I worry that things in Australia is changing, Sydney has a very large population of middle eastern people, particularly Lebanese where there are a lot of problems in may parts of Sydney. Even so a few years ago there were race riots there because they try to inflict their culture on people that won't change for no-one and their views on woman and how people should dress, coming from Muslim men that preach near some of the beast beaches in Australia where the culture is very beach orientated.

Is what was said true about Europe? Paris being surrounded and that Jews are fleeing en mass to Israel, and that if it wasn't for Israel that we would be all be the targets of the Muslim world trying to spread?
 

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Is what was said true about Europe? Paris being surrounded and that Jews are fleeing en mass to Israel, and that if it wasn't for Israel that we would be all be the targets of the Muslim world trying to spread?
No, it's rubbish
 

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I always think that, before we tackle Islamification (barely an issue at the moment), we should tackle Americanization (sic), which is really what's destroying British values.

Can I also say that Islam is actually a very peaceful religion, with a handful of extremists (although it seems that there are a lot of extremists compared to other religions). The Qu'ran actually teaches of love and peace. Indeed, this is no different to Christianity; a mainly peaceful religion, but some people take the teachings out of context and resort to extreme behaviour (the KKK being probably the ultimate "Christian" example).
 

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Well, one things certain, you can tell the guy's Dutch!

In terms of what he says, it's factual to a large extent but it's hardly anything to get hit up about. I spend a lot of time in Tilburg and Breda in the NL; coming back to the UK reminds me just how tolerant we are with racial issues, the NL seriously is becoming a racial simmering pot of tension.

Nonetheless, in the UK, the fact that BNP members have been voted in should be giving other parties a clear message that people are taking issues such as immigration to hand, and should therefore be considering them, rather than poo-pooing BNP as a "not real" party.
 

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...it still flabergasts me that people get taken in by this tripe. geert wilder is a known extreme right wing politician with an axe to grind, the type of person the bnp were trying to form an alliance group with in the eu parliament, in order to get more funding.

contrary to what the guy is saying we are not being over run or "islamified". yes there are quite a few mosques now in most major conurbations, but that reflects the diverse mix we have in the uk - makes me proud we accomodate people. I think of all the countries in europe, we probs have the most diverse, and also we're the one country taht has made multi-cultural society work. yes there is problems, and parts are ghettoized, but often its not necessarily by choicie a lot of muslims, live in some of the most sociall deprived areas in teh country. also we could a lot far worse off, I think the progressive and welcoming nature of this country has meant we havn't got a situation like in france. unllike france we include people of all races and religions in society, and try to welcome them. french society, does not, it is very divisive and seeks to exclude those not "french enough" and is exactly why it has problems it does.

also of note from visit to istanbul, I remember with amazement that there were quite a few churches and synagogues, and learned about the historic jewish community in gallata - and that was because the turks and the ottomans before them included them and allowed them to prosper in society. so in short I think we are going in the right direction, its not perfect but few things are, we don't live in a perfect world.

also aussie rail, I wouldn't worry, I think its probs deeply unfounded fears being stirred up by those with certain motive. I don't know from personal experience but from aussie friends here, have said its not exactly and embracing society, and even racism is in the mainstream still...

anyway thats my two pence on this matter...hope its not been too sprawling...:D
 
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I always think that, before we tackle Islamification (barely an issue at the moment), we should tackle Americanization (sic), which is really what's destroying British values.

Can I also say that Islam is actually a very peaceful religion, with a handful of extremists (although it seems that there are a lot of extremists compared to other religions). The Qu'ran actually teaches of love and peace. Indeed, this is no different to Christianity; a mainly peaceful religion, but some people take the teachings out of context and resort to extreme behaviour (the KKK being probably the ultimate "Christian" example).

Really we need to stop all of 'ifications and 'izations and 'isms and just all be friends and go for a pint!
 

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^^too right!

(although it might havet to be non alcoholic one for those who are muslim :roll:)
 

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also Aussie_rail, I wouldn't worry, I think its probs deeply unfounded fears being stirred up by those with certain motive. I don't know from personal experience but from Aussie friends here, have said its not exactly and embracing society, and even racism is in the mainstream still...
They say we are a very racist country but they are forgetting that we are very multicultural with people represented from all walks of life here. Because of our very spread out population of only 21 million people over an area of
7,686,850 sq km, that's 31 times the size of the UK I think we do pretty well considering what we have to contend with.

And despite all the troubles that go on, mostly in Sydney, although we had a bit of a thing in Melbourne with Indian students, which was grossly dramatised and blew everything out of proportion to what was really happening, but other than that everyone gets along.

Dandenong, a suburb of Melbourne which is also a huge industrialised and retail hub of Melbourne is also the most culturally diverse ares in the State and everyone seems to get along there pretty well.

When they bitch about how racist we are they go by what they hear in relation to the treatment of our indigenous population and the treatment of asylum seekers which we have a hard stance on.

In all reality the indigenous population are pretty well off, there are heaps of support services, benefits and entitlements given to them, and there is only a certain amount you can do for someone without having to force it on them if they don't comply or accept it.

As for the asylum seekers, we are very protective of our borders, mostly for environmental and economic reasons where the list of things you cannot bring in is quite long, but you can't just get on a leaky boat from Indonesia and set sail for the our shores because we simply will not let it happen.

Our detention centres are not prisons, they are there for the assessment of people who are want to come here because of situations in their home country, health, security and the like need to be taken into account etc.

So when they say we are a racist country, I tend to disagree.
 

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^^I'm not against immigration control, but its more the treatment of people who are rightfully there (although if they are not, that isn't a warrant for racism as well). like I say I can't say from personal experience, just what ausse friends have said. although there was that poll in the papers that said in poll of australians, aussies said that the aborigines were "least australian" - the irony lol...:lol:
 

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There was that poll in the papers that said in poll of Australians, Aussies said that the aborigines were "least Australian" - the irony lol...:lol:
LOL haha, yeah, well despite them being here for like 60,000 years or so, some of them are not very embracing of the Australian culture, I mean they wanted to change the date of Australia Day (January 26th), as well as throw a spanner in the works in other ways.
 
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