Andrew Tate on trial in Romania.

[Intercity110]

posting this because there's no thread for it. Andrew tate was arrested in romania a few weeks ago, what's everyone's opinions of him? i despise him. they showed his videos on the news, and they look like a parody.

Andrew Tate: Influencer's appeal against detention rejected by Romanian judges - BBC News

The controversial influencer has been held by authorities alongside his brother since December.

www.bbc.co.uk

Mr Tate, 36, and his brother Tristan were arrested last month on suspicion of human trafficking, rape and forming an organised crime group.
Both men have denied wrongdoing.
Last month a judge extended their detention until 27 February - a decision upheld by the Bucharest Court of Appeal on Wednesday.
At the time the judge explained his decision, describing "the capacity… of the defendants to exercise permanent psychological control over the victims, including by resorting to constant acts of violence".
Police have not yet laid any charges against the brothers, who moved to Romania five years ago.

 

[birchesgreen]

A loathsome individual. Another right wing grifter with a terrible influence on the young. I feel sorry for the rats and cockroaches that have to share a cell with him.

 

[Intercity110]

A loathsome individual. Another right wing grifter with a terrible influence on the young. I feel sorry for the rats and cockroaches that have to share a cell with him.

indeed. many people i know have been radicalized via him, calling him the 'top g', and objectifying women

 

[AlterEgo]

A complete danger. So is everyone who follows or likes him. Tate's a litmus test for any bloke you're not sure of - ask him what they think of him.

 

[Cowley]

He’s a symptom of modern day online society unfortunately. I think he probably is guilty of some of these charges though and it’s just possible that he’ll be locked up for a decent time hopefully.

 

[najaB]

I think he probably is guilty of some of these charges though and it’s just possible that he’ll be locked up for a decent time hopefully.

I would be amazed if he isn't guilty of most if not all of the charges. Whether he'll be found guilty remains to be seen though.

 

[Lost property]

I think it would be the perfect irony if he goes, as hopefully he will, to trial and the prosecutor is a woman and thereafter when found guilty, hopefully, is sentenced by a woman judge.

His views, and influence, are abhorrent in the extreme .

 

[Cowley]

I would be amazed if he isn't guilty of most if not all of the charges. Whether he'll be found guilty remains to be seen though.

Definitely. He’s a Grade A narcissist who’s surrounded himself with sycophants including his moron of a brother. It’ll be interesting to see whether he throws his brother under the bus to escape justice himself.

I’ve no doubt that he would if he got the opportunity.

 

[busestrains]

Andrew Tate is certainly an interesting character. Half of what he says is actually quite sensible and i agree with whilst the other half of what he says is complete and utter nonsense. So he speaks a mixture of sense and nonsense. He does say some sensible things but then he also comes up with a lot of crazy statements and a lot of what he says is very controversial. So i agree with some things he says but then a lot of other things i disagree with.

Whether or not he and his brother are guilty of these crimes who knows. But i do find it odd that they are being held in prison for so long without any charges. Something seems a bit odd. I thought if they had enough to arrest them then they would have charged them with something by now. It has been over a month since they were arrested and still no charges.

It is worth noting that four people were arrested and are still being held. Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate along with two women Georgiana Naghel and Launa Radu who it seems worked alongside them. It is not clear what their role was or what the accusations against them are.

Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are very wealthy men and i do have some suspicion of how they have acquired so much money. I know that they were kickboxers but even so their current net worth of around £700,000,000.00 (seven hundred million) seems rather suspicious. I am not sure kickboxers make quite that much. So i really would not be surprised if he had acquired most of this money through some sort of criminal activity. I am no financial expert but i really do not understand how they have gotten so rich otherwise.

 

[birchesgreen]

He makes a lot of money from gullible idiots.

This is a good video summarising some aspects of Tate.

 

[bspahh]

Andrew Tate is certainly an interesting character. Half of what he says is actually quite sensible and i agree with whilst the other half of what he says is complete and utter nonsense.

Could you summarise the views that you agree with?

 

[najaB]

Whether or not he and his brother are guilty of these crimes who knows. But i do find it odd that they are being held in prison for so long without any charges.

In Romania you can be held for 30 days initially without charges being brought, which can be extended for a further 30 days by a judge. However, I believe specific charges were levelled against him back in the early part of the month.

 

[brad465]

Of course Andrew Tate was arrested just after a Twitter spat with Greta Thunberg, where Tate was deliberately trying to bait her, only for her to take him down. It was rumoured him showing off his pizza box gave away his presence in Romania, although this was dismissed. However it certainly looks like a weapons-grade karma.

 

[dgl]

A horrific "human" that sees women as objects you can "own" and basically trick into doing whatever you want, mainly for them creating adult videos for him to sell and make money for himself.

You'd hope there are some "well built" Romanian woman who don't like his ways and show him that woman are not just objects for him to do with as he pleases but ones who can show that Women can cause a lot if pain if scorn.

If the person who's contacted you online sounds too good to be true or is pushy then block them ASAP, and don't whatever give out any personal details.

 

[WizCastro197]

Of course Andrew Tate was arrested just after a Twitter spat with Greta Thunberg, where Tate was deliberately trying to bait her, only for her to take him down. It was rumoured him showing off his pizza box gave away his presence in Romania, although this was dismissed. However it certainly looks like a weapons-grade karma.

Did Romanian authorities not already know his location? They would if he was residing there legally, would they not?

That Greta Thunberg spat was quite funny, she really got to him.

Andrew Tate is certainly an interesting character. Half of what he says is actually quite sensible and i agree with whilst the other half of what he says is complete and utter nonsense. So he speaks a mixture of sense and nonsense. He does say some sensible things but then he also comes up with a lot of crazy statements and a lot of what he says is very controversial. So i agree with some things he says but then a lot of other things i disagree with.

Whether or not he and his brother are guilty of these crimes who knows. But i do find it odd that they are being held in prison for so long without any charges. Something seems a bit odd. I thought if they had enough to arrest them then they would have charged them with something by now. It has been over a month since they were arrested and still no charges.

It is worth noting that four people were arrested and are still being held. Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate along with two women Georgiana Naghel and Launa Radu who it seems worked alongside them. It is not clear what their role was or what the accusations against them are.

Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are very wealthy men and i do have some suspicion of how they have acquired so much money. I know that they were kickboxers but even so their current net worth of around £700,000,000.00 (seven hundred million) seems rather suspicious. I am not sure kickboxers make quite that much. So i really would not be surprised if he had acquired most of this money through some sort of criminal activity. I am no financial expert but i really do not understand how they have gotten so rich otherwise.

Aren’t all his views just pure misogyny? Anyone who gives him the time of day, is just as bad IMHO.

I am wondering whether the appointment of a female lawyer had anything to do with attempting to improve their image, and to discount any claims that they objectify women? Hasn’t worked though, disgusting humans.

 

[nw1]

I've never heard of this non-entity until today, but he sounds like a thoroughly nasty piece of work.

Apparently an MP got "death threats" for criticising him here:

Andrew Tate: MP gets death threats after criticising influencer

Alex Davies-Jones, the MP for Pontypridd, said she received the abuse to her inbox and office.

www.bbc.co.uk

Quite why anyone would love him so much to go around making death threats is anyone's guess.

 

[martin2345uk]

Andrew Tate is certainly an interesting character. Half of what he says is actually quite sensible and i agree with whilst the other half of what he says is complete and utter nonsense. So he speaks a mixture of sense and nonsense. He does say some sensible things but then he also comes up with a lot of crazy statements and a lot of what he says is very controversial. So i agree with some things he says but then a lot of other things i disagree with.

Genuinely interested to know what these sensible things are..?

 

[GusB]

I hadn't heard of him until I read about the Twitter spat with Greta Thunberg, but he seems like a thoroughly obnoxious individual and it's quite worrying that anyone would regard him as a role model.

 

[Ladder23]

I hadn't heard of him until I read about the Twitter spat with Greta Thunberg, but he seems like a thoroughly obnoxious individual and it's quite worrying that anyone would regard him as a role model.

The sad reality of the younger generation, the same ones happy to pay £10 for a bottle of prime, embarrassing! I’m getting old..

 

[Sorcerer]

Before he was banned on social media I'd never even heard of Andrew Tate, and by extension I haven't seen anyone talk about him as much as they have now, so I don't really think he has as much power and influence as some might think he does. That said I still very much pity those who follow him, and personally I think it's a sad reflection of society that someone like him can actually find a market large enough to get as wealthy as he has done, that market mostly being impressionable young men who are so lacking in good masculine role models or aspirations in their lives that they end up getting sucked into this circle of self-proclaimed misogyny. Hopefully this arrest and prosecution sheds some light to these men on who Tate truly is and set them on a better path. Also I'm not being funny or nothing but the colour of his car wasn't exactly something to flex on Twitter either, but I digress.

 

[Cowley]

If anyone wants to delve a bit deeper into the detail, I listened to this a few days ago and it goes into the whole story of how it got this point. There’s four episodes altogether:

Part One: Andrew Tate, and the Mythopoetic Men's Movement

Behind the Bastards · Episode

open.spotify.com

 

[Intercity110]

Did Romanian authorities not already know his location? They would if he was residing there legally, would they not?

That Greta Thunberg spat was quite funny, she really got to him.

they were checking if it was in the country

 

[WizCastro197]

they were checking if it was in the country

Sorry, I haven't quite followed, what do you mean exactly? Apologies.

 

[Jammy Dodger]

Sorry, I haven't quite followed, what do you mean exactly? Apologies.

According to the Romanian authorities, it's because he flies all around the world very frequently, and so they wanted to know he was in the country and at his home so they could arrest him. While the pizza box story with Greta Thunberg is phenomenally funny (even though it was false), I'd assume the authorities have easier and more practical ways of identifying his location (passport records, discreet stakeouts from undercover officers, etc.)

 

[Scotrail12]

I remember being shown one video of his and was quite taken aback by his aggressiveness. I don't really know much about the content he posted but if true that he was a terrible influence on younger men, then society is for the better if he's locked up. That's even before mentioning these charges of human trafficking. Just sounds like a dumpster fire of a human being.

No fan of Greta but she for sure slaughtered him in one tweet!

 

[Darandio]

Half of what he says is actually quite sensible and i agree with

This will be interesting, please elaborate.

 

[WizCastro197]

This will be interesting, please elaborate.

Absolutely, @busestrains, just as we are all wondering, what do you agree with?

 

[Cloud Strife]

that market mostly being impressionable young men who are so lacking in good masculine role models

I should prefix this by saying that I'm very much on the left wing socially.

Yes, it's a real issue. I have a friend who is ex-army, now teaches PE in a rough London school. He takes absolutely no nonsense from anyone, whether it's from pupils, parents or management. He's a big black lad who is built like a brick, but when he enters a room, he dominates it. He says it straight out: the #1 issue in his secondary school is the lack of male role models.

He says that there's a tangible difference in how male pupils respond to him vs many female teachers, even before he's opened his mouth. A lot of the pupils look up to him as a result, because he's hard but very fair. He's had several pupils attempt to assault him in the past, only for them to be taken down and out before they knew what hit them. But the major issue is that there's only one of him and an untold amount of kids in desperate need of real role models.

 

[busestrains]

Could you summarise the views that you agree with?

Genuinely interested to know what these sensible things are..?

This will be interesting, please elaborate.

Absolutely, @busestrains, just as we are all wondering, what do you agree with?

I agree with him on a lot of his political views. A lot of the stuff he says about politics and related issues is actually quite sensible. An example is regarding Russia and the Ukraine i agree with his views. Also a lot of his comments regarding politics and issues in the UK and USA i agree with too. For one example he has said quite a lot of sensible stuff about the NHS and the issues surrounding it. I think he has quite a sensible viewpoint when it comes to politics and various issues affecting countries.

If you watch a lot of his videos it is not all misogyny and craziness. A lot of it is i admit. But he also says a lot of sensible stuff too. That is why i say he is half sense and half nonsense.

However i disagree with most of his other views. Most of his views regarding women are not good and i strongly disagree with a lot of what he has said about women. He has some very sexist views which i do not agree with at all. I have six daughters and i can tell you i would absolutely never want someone like him dating any of my daughters. If he was not a millionaire then i am not sure any women would want to date someone like him. So his views towards women are an issue.

Also most of his financial advice that he gives out is rather questionable too. He has said a lot of nonsense regarding money and finance in his videos.

Also that Hustlers University thing he ran was quite dodgy too. He charged people to join his online university where he would teach you how to make money. One of his main methods he promoted was making money from ad revenue on social media by cutting up short clips from his videos and posting them on Tik Tok and other social media. That is one of the reasons he got so famous because everyone on Hustlers University was posting his clips all over social media. In reality of course he just did this to get more famous and it worked. I would certainly never pay for this Hustlers University though. It all seems very dodgy.

In Romania you can be held for 30 days initially without charges being brought, which can be extended for a further 30 days by a judge. However, I believe specific charges were levelled against him back in the early part of the month.

Reading up on it now it seems that they can keep extending the 30 days every month up to a maximum of 180 days without charge. So he could be in prison for six months before they have to either charge him or release him. It shall be interesting to see what happens.

Of course Andrew Tate was arrested just after a Twitter spat with Greta Thunberg, where Tate was deliberately trying to bait her, only for her to take him down. It was rumoured him showing off his pizza box gave away his presence in Romania, although this was dismissed. However it certainly looks like a weapons-grade karma.

More likely a spat with whoever runs her Twitter account than with Greta Thunberg herself. I very highly doubt that Greta Thunberg runs her own Twitter account or had anything to do with that exchange of tweets. She probably has people employed that are running it for her.

The whole pizza box thing is nonsense! If the police need a picture of a pizza box on Twitter to tell if he is in the country or not then they are the most incompetent police in the world! Romania is not in the Schengen yet so surely if they want to know if he is in the country then they look at the entry and exit records! No police force is going to use an image of a pizza box to determine whether someone is in the country!

 

[Cowley]

A lot of the pupils look up to him as a result, because he's hard but very fair.

Right, but someone like that isn’t a concern because obviously at heart he’s a very good man trying to find a way of getting his point across in difficult circumstances. Whereas Tate is preaching little that’s useful to society or the people he manages to hook in.
But this is the wider issue isn’t it?

There probably needs to be a discussion at some point about valuing the role of the father a bit more. A decent father figure is who should be the role model for these young men and I’ve bought two boys up that are men now and it’s been hard work at times when you’ve got separated families involved.

I really think men need to educate themselves on how important the role of being a father actually is and following on from that, I think the law should help the fathers that are trying to do the right thing more than it does, because maybe that’ll go some way towards stopping vulnerable young men being enticed towards grifters who (by their own admission) don’t care who they stand on to get what they want.