trash80
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Not sure thats true, a friend's partner was trying to join the WM Police and had stringent fitness levels to reach... maybe these are all forgotten about when you get your warrant card. :P
Not sure thats true, a friend's partner was trying to join the WM Police and had stringent fitness levels to reach... maybe these are all forgotten about when you get your warrant card. :P
That’s not correct. The fitness standard for WMP is extremely low, requiring a miserly level 5.4 on the bleep test.
Indeed I agree with the base point - however 'presentable' is an subjective matter, and I cannot ever recall having considered a police officer unpresentable. However, I am 23, and I would not find tattoos, beards or an unironed shirt unpresentable.
No SNCF drivers wear uniforms and as far as I know never have. No idea whether they get a "wear and tear" allowance.I believe French TGV drivers don’t have an official uniform and I regularly see freight drivers in jeans and comfortable clothes, stout work boots/shoes. By far the most appropriate attire for the job they do.
No SNCF drivers wear uniforms and as far as I know never have. No idea whether they get a "wear and tear" allowance.
Not sure thats true, a friend's partner was trying to join the WM Police and had stringent fitness levels to reach... maybe these are all forgotten about when you get your warrant card. :P
I'm ambivalent about uniforms; they have both positives and negatives.
I don't really like the current fad for dressing all staff identically, though. People aren't tailors' dummies, different jobs will have different clothing needs, and that should be recognised and suitable clothing offered.
I'm also old-fashioned enough that I like the idea of different grades and higher levels of authority/responsibility being made obvious in a uniform, whether it be by a different colour (blue for staff, grey for supervisors, for example) or by some form of marking (there's a reason the navy has those sleeve rings!). At the moment if you're sat in a train or waiting at a station and a member of staff comes past you have no idea whether it's a train guard, a platform dispatcher, a cleaner, a fraud inspector, a fitter, a driver or whoever. It doesn't always matter, of course, but sometimes it does, and if you can quickly identify them by their uniform then that has to be a good thing. The current answer seems to be "you can look at their name badge" but that's not something easily read from half-a-platform/carriage away!
I seem to remember that one of the recommendations of the Fennell Report into the fire at Kings X was that station supervisors ought to wear a uniform distinct from the ordinary station attendants. Reason being that, in an emergency, a fireman can immediately see who they should speak to etc.
I think people being unfit and overweight has become acceptable in society and as such Police officers can get away with being the same.That’s not correct. The fitness standard for WMP is extremely low, requiring a miserly level 5.4 on the bleep test.
I think people being unfit and overweight has become acceptable in society and as such Police officers can get away with being the same.
The one that I have never understood is when people say that wearing casual clothing is more "comfortable" than wearing a suit. How are suits uncomfortable?
A suit is normally accompanied by the garrotte known a a tie
I have never found jackets uncomfortable indoors. Does your jacket fit? A tie is perfectly comfortable as long as it is not too tight. If you have a belt on your trousers, you don't fasten it too tight as to be uncomfortable.- Wearing a jacket indoors is too warm, and the shoulder pads they always have sit awkwardly on me
- A suit is normally accompanied by the garrotte known a a tie
...to name two.
I have never found jackets uncomfortable indoors. Does your jacket fit? A tie is perfectly comfortable as long as it is not too tight. If you have a belt on your trousers, you don't fasten it too tight as to be uncomfortable.
Fair enough.A jacket is uncomfortable simply because I run hot. In any office environment I am comfortable in a single layer of clothing (i.e. a shirt or polo, and ALWAYS short sleeved). A second layer makes me too hot.
But re the shoulder pads, I don't find it comfortable when clothing does not move with me, if you see what I mean. No jacket other than one without shoulder pads will do that, however expensive or perfectly fitted.
A tie is not comfortable, ever. It is a garment of repression, not smart appearance. Fortunately, working as I do in IT, it is very, very rare that I have to wear one - smart shirt and trousers are nearly always acceptable.
I've found from bitter experience the smarter someone looks the bigger idiot they often turn out to be, as long as someone is recognisable i do not care.
If it is a uniform jacket it is almost guaranteed not to fit nowadays.
Tailored uniforms went out of fashion a long time ago (due to the cost) and instead it seems that everyone gets issued* cheap shoddy Chinese stuff which even a shonky shop wouldn't touch. And which looks like something a rather dodgy boys school would issue, too; why do so many current railway uniforms look like iffy school uniforms?
* Assuming the ship hasn't been hijacked en route, of course.
I rarely wear a tie now although I used to wear one even when not at work. There was a time when I had over 100 ties and was noted for wearing very psychedelic coloured ties such that sometimes I was asked to switch my tie off!
The one that I have never understood is when people say that wearing casual clothing is more "comfortable" than wearing a suit. How are suits uncomfortable?
I travel sometimes with a small tour firm that specialises in rail holidays and a couple of their tour managers wear some fabulous ties, some are rail themed, some are just bright and eye catching.I rarely wear a tie now although I used to wear one even when not at work. There was a time when I had over 100 ties and was noted for wearing very psychedelic coloured ties such that sometimes I was asked to switch my tie off!